Springfield Armory XDS

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You're going to fix what ain't broke for cosmetic reasons? To each his own, I guess. If it's 100 percent, shoots straight, and I like it, I'd keep it. I ain't lookin' at it, only the front sight, when it comes out of my pocket.
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I don't quite understand what you mean. Are you saying that the things I don't quite like about the Kahr CW9 are all cosmetic? Because I don't remember saying anything about how the gun looks. All my complaints are about the fit and the function. My main point is that between my CW9 and my XD40sc, the XD is much higher quality, but it's a fat little gun for comfortable CC. Forget the looks. I personally think the Kahr looks better than the XD, anyway. I'll take the Springfield over the Kahr based on my personal experiences with both brands.
 
they should make a 7 round mag for it.. i'm sure one of the aftermarket companies will make a 2 round baseplate/spring kit for the 5 round magazine..

other than that, it seems to be really nice.. one thing i've noticed is, that everyone who has fired it, seems to talk about how accurate it is for it's size/caliber..

the only thing i wish they could have included was the cocked indicator on the rear of the slide, like the XD/XDm.. the little plate they used looks too glockish to me.. other than that, it looks nice..
 
I have an XD and a Kahr P40 and prefer the Kahr. Both are great guns.

I may just be interested in this once the hype goes down. Especially if you can get it in the "essentials" package for $399 like I can the standard XD's around here.
 
my CM9 has been flawless.

The 9mm version of the XDS has to be pretty exceptional for me to swap it for my Kahr, I'll give it a shot and hopefully Springfield will offer the extra mag promo this fall again.
 
Just had to go back to their website to verify: according to Springfield Armory USA now stands for "Ultra Safety Assurance".
 
I don't quite understand what you mean. Are you saying that the things I don't quite like about the Kahr CW9 are all cosmetic? Because I don't remember saying anything about how the gun looks. All my complaints are about the fit and the function. My main point is that between my CW9 and my XD40sc, the XD is much higher quality, but it's a fat little gun for comfortable CC. Forget the looks. I personally think the Kahr looks better than the XD, anyway. I'll take the Springfield over the Kahr based on my personal experiences with both brands.
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I thought you were liking the XD for better "fit and finish", didn't realize your Kahr had function problems.
 
I thought you were liking the XD for better "fit and finish", didn't realize your Kahr had function problems.
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Well, I do think that my XD has better fit and finish than my CW9, but it's not so much a "cosmetic" thing as it is an actual quality of fit and function. Again, my CW9 has not had any failures in 700 rounds, but it just doesn't inspire as much confidence as my XD, due to my impression that the Kahr seems to be slowly eating itself...:rolleyes:

I've shot metal-framed Kahrs and they seem to be extremely well made.

I'm just glad someone besides Kahr and Walther (S&W) has decided to come out with a polymer single-stack non-pocket platform.
 
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when the xds comes out ill be checking it out very closely , maybe it will be decided when the Gen 4 36 comes out or the XDS
whichever comes first
I talked to the Glock rep at the denver show two weeks agao and he said the Gen 4 -36 is slow coming out
could be a yr maybe more
the springfields dealer knew very little about the XDS , I think i surprised him, like he thought I was joking, then i showed him the literature i had on it

anyway ill be looking for a single stack carry gun for myself light weight and more concealable than my SF
may become my back up piece
and of course the wife gets first pick
fortunately they will make more
DS
 
Well I can see Jackpinesavages is giving his usual anti-Springfield opinion every other post, such a delight to see. He must just drool everytime he sees an XD thread. Now if he could only get his opinion to matter to someone other than himself.
 
Yeah, life has never been better since those single stack G36s went away. Sheesh.

I'm anxious to see this U.S.A. XDs.





I'm just glad someone besides Kahr and Walther (S&W) has decided to come out with a polymer single-stack non-pocket platform.
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Agreed, the XD(money) has nothing for me, I find the cheaper/simpler XD design superior.
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I agree. I had an XDM40 when they first came out, and I eventually traded it in. Other than being able to take it apart without pulling the trigger, I didn't see any significant advantage over my XD40sc. In fact, my XDM had a lot of FTF. My XD has been perfect.

Yeah, life has never been better since those single stack G36s went away. Sheesh.
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But the G36 has been around for so long, and has never led to another caliber. If you don't want the .45ACP, tough luck. That's why I didn't mention it alongside Kahr and Walther, who are really the only ones making single-stack polymer 9mms that aren't pocket guns. At least this new XDS is rumored to be headed to other calibers eventually.
 
As much as I like the .45ACP, with that short a barrel I'm waiting for one in .40S&W.

230gr .45 and 180gr .40 have the same sectional density, but you generally get about 100 fps more with .40S&W. With that short a barrel I'd worry about adequate penetration with the .45ACP.

Maybe some Brass Fletcher gel tests would change my mind.
 
like stated. i'd love for the poly manufactures like glock, m&p and xd to make a single stack 9. I'm pretty sure one is on the way for glock but it'll be good. this xds does not have a lot of rounds therefore i will not be buying it.
oh and because it's an xd
 
a.) I do not want and am not asking for a single-stack 9mm. Where'd you get this talking point? You mentioned there not being a single-stack option from Glock-but there it has been for many years. I did want it in .45 ACP, and I did get it.

b.) You did not mention the G36 along the Kahr and Walther single-stacks besause it's NOT in another caliber from .45 ACP, but the context of the discussion is about a .45 ACP? Huh?

c.) So, you base a decision about future purchasing of a pistol (which has itself not even been released yet), on rumors that it may be offered in a different caliber? That's certainly your choice to specualte on something!

So, what's the release date of this XDs and when are the other XD single-stacks rumored to be coming out?



But the G36 has been around for so long, and has never led to another caliber. If you don't want the .45ACP, tough luck. That's why I didn't mention it alongside Kahr and Walther, who are really the only ones making single-stack polymer 9mms that aren't pocket guns. At least this new XDS is rumored to be headed to other calibers eventually.
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Wally said:
As much as I like the .45ACP, with that short a barrel I'm waiting for one in .40S&W.

230gr .45 and 180gr .40 have the same sectional density, but you generally get about 100 fps more with .40S&W. With that short a barrel I'd worry about adequate penetration with the .45ACP.

Maybe some Brass Fletcher gel tests would change my mind.
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Anecdotal information, but American Handgunner this current issue had a picture of what looked like a 185-gr. .45 ACP Hornaday Critical Defense round out of a 3" Springfield Armory 1911 that did a solid 13" of penetration. Out of a 3" gun with a light-for-caliber bullet.
 
I'd love to check this out in 9mm. I can't afford to shoot multiple calibers and I'm already well-stocked on 9mm ammo.
 
I do not want and am not asking for a single-stack 9mm. Where'd you get this talking point?
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Starting with the 4th post in this thread, and running through all 3 pages, people have mentioned wanting to see the XDS in other calibers, especially 9mm. I am far from the only person mentioning this.

You mentioned there not being a single-stack option from Glock-but there it has been for many years. I did want it in .45 ACP, and I did get it.
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Great! When I said:
the G36 has been around for so long, and has never led to another caliber. If you don't want the .45ACP, tough luck.
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The "you" in my post was not you personally. I'm referring to the consumer, who may like Glocks, may want a single-stack pistol, but may not want/need a .45ACP. You're taking a lot of this personally, but it is not directed at you personally. It's an open discussion among many people.
 
I asked about the XDS because it is a truly compact single stack 45 acp. A 45acp in the same size package as a 9mm single stack semi interests me. There are dozens of single stack 9mm semis already out there to choose from. I already have one of them.

If SA offers it in 9mm, I could care less. I'm talking here about 45acp.
 
Jackpinesavages! i sent you a personal message. you haven't responded, man.
and i have to correct you on the USA part. the USA is part of the trigger name, like you said, for their safety trigger. it is one of the two safety features that allow me to carry an SAO triggered pistol, round chambered, pointing down at my 'gun'. the grip safety and the USA trigger make it almost impossible to fire the weapon accidentally. granted a machine can and will break, but both features at same time? think not, else i may meet my maker earlier than planned someday.

true, SA is not the old SA. but it was the government that shut down the Armory. thank God the current owners brought the company back into existence. SA, therefore, is USA. maybe a small outfit, but it's hiring a few people. long live SA.

and i can't wait for the XDS to come out in .40sw. that will obviate my having to buy the Sig P238, where the muscle memory, SAO with a safety, will not have to be changed.

and jackpine, you savage, pls respond to my PM!
 
jackpinesavages

i don't know if you know it, but if you go to user options on top, and scroll down to the List Messages link, you'll find my message of yesterday. trying to thank you for helping my brother out with a free c c class. check out the message. thanks
 
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