bluestarlizzard
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about 10 or 12 years ago springfield made a combo rifle/shotgun. no wood, ment as a survivalist gun. it had a unique trigger system, a bar that you pressed upward. does anybody have one or know where one can be found?
springfield rifle/shotgun combo
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You mean Springfield Armory, Inc.'s(not to be confused with THE Springfield Armory) M6 Scout?
http://www.gunshopfinder.com/springfield/M69201.asp
http://www.gunshopfinder.com/springfield/M69201.asp
mainmech48
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The M-6 Scout was a civilian version of a weapon once issued in pilot's survival packs. The original had 14" barrels, no trigger guard, and was chambered for the .22 Hornet over a .410 bore shotgun.
The Springfield Armory commercial model had 18 1/4" bbls, a loop trigger guard and was available in .22LR/.410 and the original .22 Hornet/.410. A compartment in the buttstock held 15 .22 LR and 4 .410 rds. It was available in both Parkerized and stainless models. The rear sight has an aperture blade for use with the rifle and an open notch for the shotgun in a 'flip-up' arrangement and was drift-adjustable for windage. The front is a fixed blade.
Barrel selection is done with a large, 3-position 'switch' on the hammer: 'up' for the rifle, 'down' for the shotgun and a middle 'safe' position.
The squeeze trigger takes some getting used to, but was a logical choice for a simple weapon used in harsh conditions.
These are rugged, very basic firearms. They are good practical tools for their purpose, versatile, well-made and capable of good accuracy.
Worth looking for on the used market, but while the way they look may suggest "cheap" don't expect them to be priced accordingly. One reason why they were discontinued, IMO.
The Springfield Armory commercial model had 18 1/4" bbls, a loop trigger guard and was available in .22LR/.410 and the original .22 Hornet/.410. A compartment in the buttstock held 15 .22 LR and 4 .410 rds. It was available in both Parkerized and stainless models. The rear sight has an aperture blade for use with the rifle and an open notch for the shotgun in a 'flip-up' arrangement and was drift-adjustable for windage. The front is a fixed blade.
Barrel selection is done with a large, 3-position 'switch' on the hammer: 'up' for the rifle, 'down' for the shotgun and a middle 'safe' position.
The squeeze trigger takes some getting used to, but was a logical choice for a simple weapon used in harsh conditions.
These are rugged, very basic firearms. They are good practical tools for their purpose, versatile, well-made and capable of good accuracy.
Worth looking for on the used market, but while the way they look may suggest "cheap" don't expect them to be priced accordingly. One reason why they were discontinued, IMO.
The M6 was a good toss in the trunk or backpack or boat rifle shotgun combo for just in case use it is a reliable handy little meat in pot tool.
You may also want to consider the Savage 24 CS or 24V series of combination guns.
For new or used check:
www.auctionarms.com
www.gunbroker.com
www.gunsamerica.com
Best of luck in finding one.
You may also want to consider the Savage 24 CS or 24V series of combination guns.
For new or used check:
www.auctionarms.com
www.gunbroker.com
www.gunsamerica.com
Best of luck in finding one.
bluestarlizzard
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i think thats it. dad remebered it vaguly and wanted to find out if it could still be found.
achildofthesky
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A fun little camp/backpacking rifle...
They shoot pretty well with the very rudimentary sights and paddle type trigger on them. I have a 22 Hornet/410 and like the gun for what it is. I have pondered about hogging the chamber out to 223/5.56 for more poop but as they are pretty much getting to be collectors items, I am reluctant to do so. Scope mounts are available still. Getting kind of pricey, especially in Stainless with the 22 Hornet/410 version and they are several websites for them with survival utility in mind. Here are several recent sales I have followed and one current auction (the last one & no, none of these are or were mine) from gunbroker:
http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=80653074
http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=80666861
http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=81454387
http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=81244034
http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=81383615
http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=81383615
http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=81534132
http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=83863786
I sold a spare NIB one I had about a year ago also in 22H/410 for just under $600 but have seen them for $150-$250 in pawn shops as well in both SS and the parkerized finish.
Be safe and happy hunting. Here's a link to one of the M-6 sites:
http://outdoors-magazine.com/s_article.php?id_article=55
Patty
They shoot pretty well with the very rudimentary sights and paddle type trigger on them. I have a 22 Hornet/410 and like the gun for what it is. I have pondered about hogging the chamber out to 223/5.56 for more poop but as they are pretty much getting to be collectors items, I am reluctant to do so. Scope mounts are available still. Getting kind of pricey, especially in Stainless with the 22 Hornet/410 version and they are several websites for them with survival utility in mind. Here are several recent sales I have followed and one current auction (the last one & no, none of these are or were mine) from gunbroker:
http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=80653074
http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=80666861
http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=81454387
http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=81244034
http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=81383615
http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=81383615
http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=81534132
http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=83863786
I sold a spare NIB one I had about a year ago also in 22H/410 for just under $600 but have seen them for $150-$250 in pawn shops as well in both SS and the parkerized finish.
Be safe and happy hunting. Here's a link to one of the M-6 sites:
http://outdoors-magazine.com/s_article.php?id_article=55
Patty
borrowedtime69
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The M6 rifle/shotgun in .22 LR/.410 SG
In my experiance, the discontinued but still availible Springfeild M6 Survival gun is a great choice for SHTF occassions. you have the .22 LR for small game and the .410 for hunting and defense.
The M6 was marketed by Springfield Armory and manufactured by CZ. it has been discontinued for about 4 years. they can still be found at gunshows or at various gunshops . there were two versions made, a stainless steel and a parkerised one. the only ones i have any experiance with is the .22 LR/.410, but they have also come in .22 hornet/.410.
the M6 is a break action single shot with the upper being .22, lower is .410. you cannot shoot .45 centerfire with the .410 barrel. the shotgun BBL in the later years are full choke so slugs are not recommended, bad accuracy. i use Winchester 000 buckshot loads if i have to hunt deer etc, or for defense. the top of the buttstock opens to revel a hiding place/storage for 15 rnds of .22 LR and 4 rounds of .410.
the gun breaks down easily into two parts for packing just by removing the hinge pin. be careful of loosing the hinge pin. i was pretty worried about spare parts for my M6 when i found out they werent making them anymore. the part i worried about the most was the pin that secures the recieiver/barrels essembly to the buttstock as it is only held in by a spring forced indent catch (sorry, best way i could explain it).
i worried i would lose it out in the field or cleaning it with no decent replacement and would basically have a club. the only other solution was to put a bolt and a wingnut in place of the pin like VShrake did in his article: http://www.oldjimbo.com/survival/v-shrake/m6.html. this solution was a little too bulky for me so i came up with a new pin idea that would lock the pin into place solidly without extra hardware poking far out away from the reciever.
i bought a Universal Clevis Pin and a small hair (tiny hitch) pin. i inserted the clevis through the assembled gun's pivot pin holes all the way. i then marked the length for cutting. used my dremel carbon disk to cut down the pin. i then used a dremel stone to round out the edges of the new end. i then reinserted the clevis pin and then put in the hair pin through the second hole from the head to lock it in place.
i DO NOT think that the pin will ever be knocked loose. i got two sets of these that i will keep. one with the take-down case i bought and maybe put one in one of the two sling pouches as a back up.
the modifications i did on it includes:
- hammer extender
- undercut the front sight to make it more visible for rear peep
- painted front post and rear peep black for visibility
- replaced rear sling stud with detatchable sling stud
- took off the useless trigger guard
- made my own sling out of 1" nylon tubing.
- three pouches attatched to the sling that hold: SAK, Silvia compass/match case, extra .410 #3 buck, and a mini- maglite.
- Do NOT wrap the barrels with cordage, it will cause warping and inaccuracy of the gun, even if you shim between the barrels
the accuracy for the .22 LR is fairly good, i have bad eyesight but i can hit a squirrel at 20 yards. the shotgun works great too. i carry two differant .22 ammo with the gun, CCI mini-mag HP's and CCI CB shorts for quieter shooting. i use rifle shell wallets to carry extra .410 shells. i carry #4 shot 3 1/2" shells and 2 3/4" #8 shot. i wish to hell someone would specialty load .410 for both flechette rounds and flare rounds.
if youre looking for an M6 out in the world, prices will range from $185- $300.
depnding on the model, stainless or parkerized, condition, caliber option ( i would only choose .22 LR upper due to low cost and easy to find ammo).
I have seen some New In Box M6's at gun shows that they found in a back room and sell for thier weight in gold and ive seen used, tore up, abused ones that someone had under their truck seat since the civil war!
i HIGHLY recommend this as a SHTF gun as it compacts well, has ample firepower, can be loud or quiet with the right ammo. it would be worth paying a higher price for it. I also truely hope that some intelligent company out there will buy the rights to the gun and have CZ manufacture them again.
Built a Survival System Around My M6
In my experiance, the discontinued but still availible Springfeild M6 Survival gun is a great choice for SHTF occassions. you have the .22 LR for small game and the .410 for hunting and defense.
The M6 was marketed by Springfield Armory and manufactured by CZ. it has been discontinued for about 4 years. they can still be found at gunshows or at various gunshops . there were two versions made, a stainless steel and a parkerised one. the only ones i have any experiance with is the .22 LR/.410, but they have also come in .22 hornet/.410.
the M6 is a break action single shot with the upper being .22, lower is .410. you cannot shoot .45 centerfire with the .410 barrel. the shotgun BBL in the later years are full choke so slugs are not recommended, bad accuracy. i use Winchester 000 buckshot loads if i have to hunt deer etc, or for defense. the top of the buttstock opens to revel a hiding place/storage for 15 rnds of .22 LR and 4 rounds of .410.
the gun breaks down easily into two parts for packing just by removing the hinge pin. be careful of loosing the hinge pin. i was pretty worried about spare parts for my M6 when i found out they werent making them anymore. the part i worried about the most was the pin that secures the recieiver/barrels essembly to the buttstock as it is only held in by a spring forced indent catch (sorry, best way i could explain it).
i worried i would lose it out in the field or cleaning it with no decent replacement and would basically have a club. the only other solution was to put a bolt and a wingnut in place of the pin like VShrake did in his article: http://www.oldjimbo.com/survival/v-shrake/m6.html. this solution was a little too bulky for me so i came up with a new pin idea that would lock the pin into place solidly without extra hardware poking far out away from the reciever.
i bought a Universal Clevis Pin and a small hair (tiny hitch) pin. i inserted the clevis through the assembled gun's pivot pin holes all the way. i then marked the length for cutting. used my dremel carbon disk to cut down the pin. i then used a dremel stone to round out the edges of the new end. i then reinserted the clevis pin and then put in the hair pin through the second hole from the head to lock it in place.
i DO NOT think that the pin will ever be knocked loose. i got two sets of these that i will keep. one with the take-down case i bought and maybe put one in one of the two sling pouches as a back up.
the modifications i did on it includes:
- hammer extender
- undercut the front sight to make it more visible for rear peep
- painted front post and rear peep black for visibility
- replaced rear sling stud with detatchable sling stud
- took off the useless trigger guard
- made my own sling out of 1" nylon tubing.
- three pouches attatched to the sling that hold: SAK, Silvia compass/match case, extra .410 #3 buck, and a mini- maglite.
- Do NOT wrap the barrels with cordage, it will cause warping and inaccuracy of the gun, even if you shim between the barrels
the accuracy for the .22 LR is fairly good, i have bad eyesight but i can hit a squirrel at 20 yards. the shotgun works great too. i carry two differant .22 ammo with the gun, CCI mini-mag HP's and CCI CB shorts for quieter shooting. i use rifle shell wallets to carry extra .410 shells. i carry #4 shot 3 1/2" shells and 2 3/4" #8 shot. i wish to hell someone would specialty load .410 for both flechette rounds and flare rounds.
if youre looking for an M6 out in the world, prices will range from $185- $300.
depnding on the model, stainless or parkerized, condition, caliber option ( i would only choose .22 LR upper due to low cost and easy to find ammo).
I have seen some New In Box M6's at gun shows that they found in a back room and sell for thier weight in gold and ive seen used, tore up, abused ones that someone had under their truck seat since the civil war!
i HIGHLY recommend this as a SHTF gun as it compacts well, has ample firepower, can be loud or quiet with the right ammo. it would be worth paying a higher price for it. I also truely hope that some intelligent company out there will buy the rights to the gun and have CZ manufacture them again.
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