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Springfield Trap Door?

Discussion in 'Firearms Research' started by Jagermeister, Dec 31, 2002.

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  1. Jagermeister

    Jagermeister Moderator In Memoriam

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    Was browsing the library and ran across this interesting piece of trivia. Thought someone might be interested.

    It is always interesting how "JOE" (Soldiers) find other names for the guns and equipment they use. As the Allin is named after the designer, "JOE" gave it several other names.

    Springfield Trapdoor
    Allin Springield
    Trapdoor rifle.

    JM



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    4v50 Gary Moderator Staff Member

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    A few years earlier Joe was known as "Billy" as in "Billy Yank." How did "Johnny Reb" come by that name and why was "When Johnny comes marching home?" so popular with both sides.
     
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    SW M&P / model 10

    I've heard these guns refered to as the .38 Murphy.

    Lots of metropolitan police forces issued these for their personnel, who were often Irish.
     
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  4. Jim Watson

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    TD Springfield commonly known as the "needle gun" from the long firing pin. Not to be confused with the Dreyse.
     
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    new to this site.i own springfield trap door rifle,ineed more info on it.how can i find out?
     
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    As best I can determine, the troops usually called the guns just "rifle" or "carbine", but the term "Springfield" was often used. I can find no use of "Allin" outside the Armory or gun circles. The term "trapdoor" was used only if there was a need to distinguish that type of rifle or carbine from another type, like the Remington.

    Sometimes infantry called the rifle "Long Tom" or even "musket"; both were carried over from the Civil War. I believe the term "needle gun" was mostly or maybe exclusively a civilian term, probably used by those who had heard vaguely about the Prussian Dreyse system and thought it applied to the long firing pin of the Springfield.

    Jim
     
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