SR9 Failure

[nf8d]

Some time ago, I posted a thread that I had a SR9 for trade for a wheel gun. I am just not comfortable with a semi automatic pistol.

Since then, I took the SR9 to the Range for a second time, and had two accidental discharges, and when the event was reveiwed with the Range Officer, it discharged accidentally on him as well.

I WANT TO WITH DRAW ANY OFFER TO TRADE/SELL THIS PISTOL AT THIS TIME.

For the information and consideration of other SR 9 owners, I offer the following information:

I inserted a full clip of ball 9mm into the SR9, and when I released the slide to charge the chamber, IT DISCHARGED down range. A new round cycled into the chamber.

After some discussion, it was decided that I must have had my finger on the trigger.

A 2nd clip was inserted, and with absolute attention to not having my finger anywhere near the trigger, the slide was drawn, released, and IT DISCHARGED down range a second time. The remaining 16 rounds were cycled through without incident.

The Range Officer repeated the cycle, and it DISCHARGED on him when the slide was released to charge the chamber.

I have called Ruger, they are sending the documentation to return the pistol to them.

TO ALL THIS I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD, NO WONDER I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH SEMI-AUTOMATIC PISTOLS.

 

[ashtxsniper]

I hope this isnt a typical problem for ruger pistols I would like to get a SR9.

 

[Mulliganpaintdee]

hmmmm first time I heard of this problem with the SR9. Sucks! Totally unacceptable. My SR9 on the other hand has been nothing but a reliable, gorgeous and an accurate shooter to boot.

 

[skywarp_]

My Sigs,glocks, Springfields, Walthers and Kimbers have never done that but I have had revolvers get out of time and pepper me with lead shrapnel after it reflects off the side of the stall.

Try something else. In my opinion the SR9 is too little too late from ruger, they've lost the battle for military and police style weapons years ago.

 

[bdg146]

Sorry to hear about the failure, but glad no one was hurt.

This seems like a pretty serious problem, and if it were a common problem with the SR9, we'd have heard about it elsewhere I'm sure.

 

[dhoomonyou]

please let us know the outcome with Ruger.

glad you are ok from the AD's.

 

[ldyates]

I have never heard of this happening in a stock pistol. AK's are notorious for this due to the free floating firing pin. I wonder if Ruger engineered the SR9 with some similar feature?

PS.. "Free Floating" is not the correct term, but it will suffice for this discussion. Armorers... feel free to clarify my comment.

 

[possum]

that ain't worth a darn there, well at least you were following the always point in a safe direction rule, never the less that is unexceptable.

 

[nwilliams]

Over 600 rounds through mine so far and now issues, first I've heard of this problem anywhere.

I have never heard of this happening in a stock pistol. AK's are notorious for this due to the free floating firing pin. I wonder if Ruger engineered the SR9 with some similar feature?

The firing pin is still obstructed from floating all the way forward due to the firing pin block, like a Glock or any striker-fire pistol has. In order for the pin to travel forward all the way into the chamber you need to depress the trigger to raise the block and allow the firing pin to move forward that extra distance.

TO ALL THIS I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD, NO WONDER I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH SEMI-AUTOMATIC PISTOLS.

Slam-fires are not unheard of among semi-auto pistols, I've even heard of it happening to Glocks. Just continue to keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction and trust that Ruger will fix your gun. I think if this was a common problem among SR9's then more people would have experienced it by now.

 

[alsymmers]

First off - Ruger wouldn't be my first choice for a semi-auto pistol (Please, I am not faulting/blaming anyone for buying Ruger just stating my opinion, so no hate replies)

But the fact remains that Ruger is known for their revolvers of all calibers, but semi-autos' is a stretch for them. Second, I have had one of those in my hand and was not impressed at all with the build quality, fit and or finish. Sort of reminded me of the Walmart edition from S&W the dreaded Sigma's (throw away pistol) -

Also, I have heard of FTF issues with these pistols and honestly it didn't surprize me given my opinion of Ruger semi's... I'm sorry to hear of your troubles thank Goodness no one was injured. Ruger's CS is top shelf although I for one wouldn't want that pistol back - I would demand a FULL refund including any expenses (ammo) you we're out as a result of this purchase.

Please, make sure you let as many people know about this issue as is humanly possible on all the forums to minimize any serious accidents ...

 

[Kindrox]

Some time ago, I posted a thread that I had a SR9 for trade for a wheel gun. I am just not comfortable with a semi automatic pistol.

Not on this board, anyway, as this was his first post. A google search of his user name + 'gun' did not bring up any gun posts. That is an amateur radio call sign so I hope the OP is not a troll.

 

[FieroCDSP]

There would have to be something seriously wrong with:

A:the pistol. As stated, the firing pin block would prevent a slam-fire from the firing pin assuming; 1: it has not been altered 2:it is not jammed forward due to broken spring or such.

B:the ammunition. No mention of what ammo. If it were shoddy reloads, the primers could be seated shallow and be detonating when the breech-face hits them.

This is an incomplete picture and is not reason enough to prevent me personally from buying a Ruger. I've been looking at the SR9, and it's a nice package for the price.

 

[Ruffwood]

Yes I'll admit I'm a Ruger Nut. But it is interesting how someone just pops in with 1 post and reports a dangerous malfunction and then disappears.

 

[RustyShackelford]

Ruger SR9 9mmNATO/ R&D

I'm leery of buying a NIB Ruger SR9 pistol in it's early production runs, . Sometimes weapons have major problems that need to be worked out by the factory. Recalls and product changes are common, . But for a 9mmNATO pistol to discharge like the post states is highly unusual. I'd think a major firm like Ruger would conduct many safety tests and R&D before selling the SR9 to the US public.
I'm still unclear about how the pistol fired without touching the trigger.
I'm not a big fan of striker fired pistols for duty/CC/protection use. The new types of hammer fired DA only weapons like the SIGsauer DAK and HK's LEM lines would be my 1st choice.
www.sigsauer.com www.hk-usa.com www.ruger.com
RS

 

[kokapelli]

It is very interesting to see how many critics there are on gun forums that have never owned or even fired the guns they criticize.

Seems that if they don't have one, it must not be any good

 

[novaDAK]

I own 6 Ruger P-series, no problems or complaints with any of them.

I don't own an SR9...still too new and hasn't proven itself IMO.

DON'T JUDGE THE OLDER RUGER SERIES BASED ON THE SR9!!!
THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DESIGNS!!!!

 

[CPshooter]

I don't have anything to say about the SR9 itself, but I do have to say that Ruger NEEDS to get on this ASAP and possibly do a recall on the SR9 if this isn't an isolated case. That is dangerous as hell. Granted, the gun should be pointed in a safe direction when chambering...either way Ruger is going to have some lawsuits on its hands in no time if this isn't cleared up quickly.

 

[jakeswensonmt]

But the fact remains that Ruger is known for their revolvers of all calibers, but semi-autos' is a stretch for them.

That's going to come as a real surprise to the legions of happy Ruger P-series owners out there.

 

[BrokenArrow]

Can take years to find and work out all the bugs...

The first P85 had safety issues too; why we got the P85 MkII and then the P89.

How long should you wait on a new gun?

Incidents similar to this (slam fire), and discharges during DEA drop safety tests (frisbee test) led to the Glock six part upgrade in 1992, about 10 years after the Glock had been on the market, and 6 years after it had been on the US market.

 

[DENALI]

Well I'm not surprised in the least. Ruger pistols are notorious for being rushed to market(after 27 years of development). I've personally had two highly defective KP345PR .45's that were purchased a year apart from different vendors. Nothing serious, just a firing pin that was broken cleanly in two, broken slide stop pins, an immproperly fitted barrel, two dusted springs (firing pin block, magazine disconnect), and a owner's manual that failed to warn the proud new owner that adjusting the rear site could very well kaput those two spring's. All but the springs, arrived NIB.................

 

[12131]

nf8d, if this is your very first post, did you post under a different handle some time ago?

 

[12131]

I'm glad I stuck with my old P-series Rugers.

 

[raz-0]

hmm ruger warns not to dry fire the SR9 without an empty magazine in the gun. They say it coud damage something. I wonder if this is a symptom of doing that. That would be bad considering lots of guns tores will likely ignore that advice, and many often try to sell you what is in the case.

 

[Ed Ames]

Join Date: 01-11-08
Posts: 1
Some time ago, I posted a thread that I had a SR9 for
trade for a wheel gun. I am just not comfortable with
a semi automatic pistol.

umm.... it's been said.....

Anyway, assuming the events actually happened it still comes back to some pretty basic truths:
1) Guns are mechanical devices
2) Mechanical devices can fail
ergo
3) Guns can fail.

That's always true, whether a gun is brand new or decades old, whether a design is new or has been in production for 100 years. They can fail.

However, new designs are more likely to have undiscovered design failures. I doubt this qualifies though. This sounds like a manufacturing defect. Good example of why you shouldn't grab a new pistol, take it home, and load it up without at least one range visit or a very good check-out first.

 

[kokapelli]

hmm ruger warns not to dry fire the SR9 without an empty magazine in the gun. They say it coud damage something. I wonder if this is a symptom of doing that. That would be bad considering lots of guns tores will likely ignore that advice, and many often try to sell you what is in the case.
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I can't see how the magazine safety could cause what appears to be a slam fire problem in this particular SR9 pistol, but you're sure right about selling guns that have been in the show case and dry fired by customers.

Dry firing without a magazine installed in the SR9 is supposed to cause the trigger to become gritty after awhile, but not effect the gun functionally.

The CZ, (which most of use will agree is a truly fine pistol) is not supposed to be dry fired without a snap cap in the chamber. Now is someone going to tell us that the CZ is no good because of this too?

I have removed the magazine safety from my SR9, so that I don't have to worry about developing the gritty trigger syndrome. It took me about five minutes, but if I did it again, I figure I could do it in 30 seconds, or at least in less than a minute.