State Dept has issued a travel warning for Mexico

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March 14, 2010

The Department of State has issued this Travel Warning to inform U.S. citizens traveling to and living in Mexico of concerns about the security situation in Mexico, and that it has authorized the departure of the dependents of U.S. government personnel from U.S. consulates in the Northern Mexican border cities of Tijuana, Nogales, Ciudad Juarez, Nuevo Laredo, Monterrey and Matamoros until April 12. Family members of US Government personnel assigned to other areas of Mexico outside the Mexican border states are not affected by this departure measure. This Travel Warning supercedes that of February 22, 2010, and announces the authorized departure of some dependents and updates security incidents.

While millions of U.S. citizens safely visit Mexico each year (including tens of thousands who cross the land border daily for study, tourism or business and nearly one million U.S. citizens who live in Mexico), violence in the country has increased. It is imperative that U.S. citizens understand the risks in Mexico, how best to avoid dangerous situations, and who to contact if victimized. Common-sense precautions such as visiting only legitimate business and tourist areas during daylight hours, and avoiding areas where prostitution and drug dealing might occur, can help ensure that travel to Mexico is safe and enjoyable.

Recent violent attacks have prompted the U.S. Embassy to urge U.S. citizens to delay unnecessary travel to parts of Durango, Coahuila and Chihuahua states(see details below) and advise U.S. citizens residing or traveling in those areas to exercise extreme caution. Drug cartels and associated criminal elements have retaliated violently against individuals who speak out against them or whom they otherwise view as a threat to their organizations. These attacks include the abduction and murder of two resident U.S. citizens in Chihuahua.

Violence Along the U.S. - Mexico Border

Mexican drug cartels are engaged in violent conflict - both among themselves and with Mexican security services - for control of narcotics trafficking routes along the U.S.-Mexico border. To combat violence, the government of Mexico has deployed military troops throughout the country. U.S. citizens should cooperate fully with official checkpoints when traveling on Mexican highways.

Some recent confrontations between Mexican authorities and drug cartel members have resembled small-unit combat, with cartels employing automatic weapons and grenades. Large firefights have taken place in towns and cities across Mexico, but occur mostly in northern Mexico, including Ciudad Juarez, Tijuana, Chihuahua City, Nogales, Matamoros, Reynosa and Monterrey. During some of these incidents, U.S. citizens have been trapped and temporarily prevented from leaving the area. The U.S. Mission in Mexico currently restricts its U.S. government employees’ travel within the state of Durango, the northwest quadrant of the state of Chihuahua and an area southeast of Ciudad Juarez, and all parts of the state of Coahuila south of Mexican Highways 25 and 22 and the Alamos River. This restriction was implemented in light of a recent increase in assaults, murders, and kidnappings in those three states.

The situation in northern Mexico remains fluid; the location and timing of future armed engagements cannot be predicted. Recently, the cities of Durango and Gomez Palacio in the state of Durango, and the area known as “La Laguna” in the state of Coahuila, which includes the city of Torreon, experienced sharp increases in violence. In late 2009 and early 2010, four visiting U.S. citizens were murdered in Gomez Palacio, Durango. These and several other unsolved murders in the state of Durango have caused particular concern.

A number of areas along the border continue to experience a rapid growth in crime. Robberies, homicides, petty thefts, and carjackings have all increased over the last year across Mexico, with notable spikes in Chihuahua, Sinaloa, and northern Baja California. Ciudad Juarez, Tijuana and Nogales are among the cities that have experienced public shootouts during daylight hours in shopping centers and other public venues. Criminals have followed and harassed U.S. citizens traveling in their vehicles in border areas including Nuevo Laredo, Matamoros, and Tijuana. Travelers on the highways between Monterrey and other parts of Mexico to the United States (notably through Nuevo Laredo and Matamoros) have been targeted for robbery and violence and have also inadvertently been caught in incidents of gunfire between criminals and Mexican law enforcement. Such incidents are more likely to occur at night but may occur at any time.

The situation in the state of Chihuahua, specifically Ciudad Juarez, is of special concern. The U.S. Consulate General recommends that American citizens defer non-essential travel to the Guadalupe Bravo area southeast of Ciudad Juarez and to the northwest quarter of the state of Chihuahua including the city of Nuevo Casas Grandes and surrounding communities. From the United States, these areas are often reached through the Columbus, NM, and Fabens and Fort Hancock, TX, ports of entry. In both areas, American citizens have been victims of drug-related violence.

Mexican authorities report that more than 2,600 people were killed in Ciudad Juarez in 2009. Additionally, this city of 1.3 million people experienced more than 16,000 car thefts and 1,900 carjackings in 2009. U.S. citizens should pay close attention to their surroundings while traveling in Ciudad Juarez, avoid isolated locations during late night and early morning hours, and remain alert to news reports. Visa and other service seekers visiting the Consulate are encouraged to make arrangements to pay for those services using a non-cash method.

U.S. citizens are urged to be alert to safety and security concerns when visiting the border region. Criminals are armed with a wide array of sophisticated weapons. In some cases, assailants have worn full or partial police or military uniforms and have used vehicles that resemble police vehicles. While most crime victims are Mexican citizens, the uncertain security situation poses serious risks for U.S. citizens as well. U.S. citizen victims of crime in Mexico are urged to contact the consular section of the nearest U.S. consulate or Embassy for advice and assistance. Contact information is provided at the end of this message.

Crime and Violence Throughout Mexico

U.S. citizens traveling throughout Mexico should exercise caution in unfamiliar areas and be aware of their surroundings at all times. Bystanders have been injured or killed in violent attacks in cities across the country, demonstrating the heightened risk of violence in public places. In recent years, dozens of U.S. citizens living in Mexico have been kidnapped and most of their cases remain unsolved. U.S. citizens who believe they are being targeted for kidnapping or other crimes should notify Mexican law enforcement officials and the U.S. Embassy in Mexico City or the nearest U.S. consulate as soon as possible. Any U.S. visitor who suspects they are a target should consider returning to the United States immediately. U.S. citizens should be aware that many cases of violent crime are never resolved by Mexican law enforcement, and the U.S. government has no authority to investigate crimes committed in Mexico.

U.S. citizens should make every attempt to travel on main roads during daylight hours, particularly the toll ("cuota") roads, which generally are more secure. When warranted, the U.S. Embassy and consulates advise their employees as well as private U.S. citizens to avoid certain areas, abstain from driving on certain roads because of dangerous conditions or criminal activity, or recommend driving during daylight hours only. When this happens, the Embassy or the affected consulate will alert the local U.S. citizen Warden network and post the information on their respective websites, indicating the nature of the concern and the expected time period for which the restriction will remain in place.

U.S. citizen visitors are encouraged to stay in the well-known tourist areas. Travelers should leave their itinerary with a friend or family member not traveling with them, avoid traveling alone, and check with their cellular phone service providers prior to departure to confirm that their cell phone is capable of roaming on GSM or 3G international networks. Do not display expensive-looking jewelry, large amounts of money, or other valuable items. Travelers to remote or isolated hunting or fishing venues should be aware of their distance from appropriate medical, law enforcement, and consular services in an emergency situation.

Demonstrations and Large Public Gatherings

Demonstrations occur frequently throughout Mexico and usually are peaceful. However, even demonstrations intended to be peaceful can turn confrontational and escalate to violence unexpectedly. Violent demonstrations have resulted in deaths, including that of an American citizen in Oaxaca in 2006. In 2008, a Mexican Independence Day celebration was the target of a violent attack. During demonstrations or law enforcement operations, U.S. citizens are advised to remain in their homes or hotels, avoid large crowds, and avoid the downtown and surrounding areas. Since the timing and routes of scheduled marches and demonstrations are always subject to change, U.S. citizens should monitor local media sources for new developments and exercise extreme caution while within the vicinity of protests.

The Mexican Constitution prohibits political activities by foreigners, and such actions may result in detention and/or deportation. U.S. citizens are therefore advised to avoid participating in demonstrations or other activities that might be deemed political by Mexican authorities. As is always the case in any large gathering, U.S. citizens should remain alert to their surroundings.

A lot of good advice in there, but I think they are saying the best way to get out of trouble is to not be where the trouble happens.
Many people who would check the State Department/CIA page before traveling overseas might forget to check for Mexico. People who don't live near the border might not be aware of recent developments.

Please share this information with anyone you know making Spring Break plans.
 
from what I understand some of that violence has moved in parts of the US, I dont have anything against Mexico but there are reasons we have immigration laws and a (supposed) border
 
Thanks for posting the alert. It might be a good idea to advise friends and family living there to have their BOB's ready. In many African countries, you are told to keep your valuable possessions and over night gear close to hand in case things turn smelly. Several times, the Marines have been dispatched to evac citizens out of those hotspots.

Odd as it sounds, I guess Mexico is turning into one of those places. I guess it is a return to Mexico and the Border of the 1900's era.

from what I understand some of that violence has moved in parts of the US

The recent murders of people with consulate connections are a scare, as well as the targeting of US agents / officials. Soon it will be the targeting of US citizens, as in many other places, because the "officials" are better protected. I expect this to get worse.
 
Someone was using the State Dept consulate as "cover" for an unrelated activity, likely under some other department of the US government, and the cartels and/or Mexican Army (not always different) found out and made their displeasure known. This is the State Dept's retaliation.
 
The Mexican cartels are buying soldiers in the Mexican army and turning them into their own protectors and assassins. The violence from these gangs is spilling across the border into the U.S., most notably at the border of Laredo, TX, and Nuevo Laredo Mexico. The people that are involved in the violent shootings are trained soldiers, (marksmanship, hand-to-hand combat, etc.) and are willing to make violent confrontations in broad daylight. I also think the border situation is in a terrible state. Something seriously has to be done about it. I honestly don't mind the immigration, IF they get the visas and BECOME A CITIZEN LAWFULLY, and at least make an attempt to learn English. But when they come over illegally and steal identities and start drug growing operations and bring the crime and violence with them, it's unacceptable. And I hear now there's an organization that supplies drums of water in the desert (on our border) so the illegals don't die of thirst.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Zetas
 
Mexico is a failed state....

these events are just a fore shadowing of things to come...

it will (and already has) come north of the border....

as the drug gangs operate with more and more impunity in Mexico, they'll be better able to finance their cousins in the Latin gangs on this side of the border.

my bet is that you'll see IEDs going off in the states regualarly withing 5 years.

You don't need more guns and ammo. gentlemen, you need more friends (preferably with their own supply of guns and ammo.)
 
Mexico is certainly on the verge of violent revolution. For many years now I have refused to travel to Mexico because I don't want to support their corruption with my tourist dollars. When it does implode, I doubt that the tourist areas will be magically safe either.

I watch guys like Clint Smith teach about using 'battlefield pickup' weapons when you are surprised to find yourself in the middle of a violent situation, and how it's good to have a working knowledge of the weapons you might encounter, and then the other half of my brain screams; "DON'T GO ON VACATION IN PLACES THAT ARE ABOUT TO VIOLENTLY IMPLODE!!"
 
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I was raised on the frontier (eastern san diego) and my family learned many years ago to stay the hell away from mexico. You're a fool if you think you are safe in that hellhole!
 
Someone was using the State Dept consulate as "cover" for an unrelated activity, likely under some other department of the US government, and the cartels and/or Mexican Army (not always different) found out and made their displeasure known. This is the State Dept's retaliation.

FBI, DEA, Secret Service, Customs and other federal agencies have routinely assigned personnel to our embassies and consulates. CIA personnel (no matter what their cover) are sometimes known, at least within diplomatic circles, in friendly countries. In other countries they may be the Deputy Assistant Attache for Cultural Affairs and that's all they are known by most people in the embassy.

These facts are not secret and I doubt some light bulb just went off in someone's head. I don't think it's retaliation. It's just how bad Mexico has gotten. You don't see alerts on don't go to Australia or Canada as they are civilized countries.

I used to live 5 miles from Mexico and these alerts are nothing new. I will agree the situation has gotten worse in Mexico since I lived so close.
 
This is close to anarchy IMHO.

The smartest way to get rid off the
drug cartels is by legalization.
 
Take it from one who lives near the Mexican border; DO NOT even consider a trip to Mexico. The situation there is totally out of control. Many recent murders have had NO connection to the drug traffickers. They're being classed as "mistaken identity" cases where the hitmen just wiped out anyone who was in a vehicle that resembled the one known to be driven by their targets.

There is nothing in Mexico that's worth losing one's life over. :uhoh:
 
it has authorized the departure of the dependents of U.S. government personnel from U.S. consulates in the Northern Mexican border cities of Tijuana, Nogales, Ciudad Juarez, Nuevo Laredo, Monterrey and Matamoros until April 12.

That's the key phrase. Having US government employee's dependents leave an area is a huge red flag on safety in those areas. Under those circumstances I would not enter the affected areas at all for even a brief period of time.
 
From where I sit on a ringside seat it appears that the combined efforts of both the U.S. and Mexican governments is hitting the cartels in the pocketbook where it hurts. Also the Mexicans have recently taken out a number of key players on the other side. I would expect the cartels to respond by attacking Americans to show they're displeasure, and they may indeed target individuals on both sides of the border - as they have done in the past.
 
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Given the recent events in Mexico over the last SEVERAL YEARS, especially along the border towns, I wonder why it took so long for such a warning to be issued. Glad they did, but holy cow it seems like closing the barn door after some of the horses are already out.
 
Well, I think that it wasn't thought that the Cartels would in effect become terrorist operators. We have always been taught, that drug dealers were all like Pablo Escobar, seemingly dissident or fringe businessmen. In Mexico, it seems that when we or the Mexican Government make a move to on the cartels, they react in a fashion reminiscent of Hamas or Hezbollah.

I agree with SSN Vet, there will be IED's there soon and the violence will escalate soon. Pancho Villa will return to the border.
 
The main reason for the recent warning is because it appears that the cartels might be targeting State Department employees. With that possibility in mind they started pulling dependants out of the war zone. Then they made it clear to other Americans that they might be targeted too. The cartels have always considered terror to be an importent weapon.
 
I think Old Fuff is spot on in post #15.
I have pondered a few times that it might get so bad that the CIA just might start taking out these Cartel leaders ala Mosaad method for national security concerns.
Things of this nature have most definitely been done before by our government.
 
No problems up here in the north, but everyone stay safe near the borders.

I have never been south of I40 so I cannot really comment on the reality of the situation/how bad it really is.
 
at least our Governor is trying to do something about the "spill over".
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcon...tories/031710dnintconsulkillings.414d4d0.html



In Austin, Gov. Rick Perry, citing what he called heightened risk of spillover violence from the drug war, renewed his request for surveillance planes and 1,000 fresh troops along the Mexican border. He also put state law enforcement on heightened alert.

In Washington, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano brushed off Perry's request for planes and troops, telling MSNBC: "We have a lot of technology akin to drones already that are being employed in different ways along the border. I'm going to look at Governor Perry's request."

Perry denounced that as a "wait-and-hope strategy" as drug cartels and Mexican authorities vie for control in Mexico's border cities.

Napolitano also said the violence in Juárez has persisted despite Calderón's unprecedented deployment of soldiers to border cities.

"It's an outrageous crime," Napolitano said, referring to Saturday's killings. "It is part of a wave of violence that has gone through Juárez over the last years. ... President Calderón of Mexico has been deeply involved, even sending the military into Juárez. That hasn't helped."
 
Two white SUVs left the party. They didn't know which one to hit, so they hit both. I imagine that the former Mexican policeman was the intended target.
 
"Funny" anecdote:

I was recently driving cross country to a job out in Arizona and passing through El Paso. I joked to my coworker/buddy that we should swing on down to Juarez for a night on the town. He wisely declined. We probably would have been fine- there were only 10 murders that night :eek:.

On another job several years ago in San Diego we took a ride down to Tijuana. When the sun started going down, we turned tail and ran. Total time in country, less than two hours.
 
Our church has a mission trip to Juarez every year at spring break ... they really need to reconsider this year, but I don't think they will (in fact I think they might be there now).
 
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