Stay away from Marlin 1895 .45-70s...

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They are HIGHLY addictive!!!
The wife picked me up a first year production of the new rifles, 1972, a couple of months ago.
Some of the best entertainment I have had at the range.
Picked up an 1895 STP, 5 round mag... stainless... 16.25" barrel, earlier this month.
NICE boomer.
Then we were at one of the gun shops on our "wonder what we can find" circuit and ran across an 1895 SBL.
Darling wife puts THAT one on layaway.
Best friend goes to the range with us and asks about buying the 1st year one... has to have it.
So, we sold that one to him to help pay for the SBL.

So yea.. dont pick one up.
Dont fondle one.
And never EVER shoot one.

Its a sickness I tell you.

However, I have to say the STP is a sexy beast... had a guy ask if it was a .22.
You should have seen his eyes when I tossed him one of the rounds for it.
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Jim
 
I have an 1895 S myself. Impressive accuracy and quite a thumper with hand loads. Almost hate to admit I haven't shot it in a decade.
 
Despite the warning, I find myself pestering my local gun shop for the blued version of what u have.
 
FoMoGo said:
They are HIGHLY addictive!!!
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As are all Marlin lever actions! I'm at five and counting, but have stopped attending group meetings ... it wasn't working!! Here's my pig slayer that I plan on putting to good use in 2011 ... and nice STP by the way, but I wonder if you'll keep it once you have the SBL.

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I think I'm on the verge of becoming an addict, late at night I find myself looking at pictures of these sweet lever guns on the Internet and telling myself "45/70 isn't that expensive" and "my wife will understand" but I know I will eventually fall to the siren song of these marlin rifles....
 
Not trying to get off topic here, but how do those Marlins shoot with lead bullets? I have a few .22 lever guns and just got one in .357. I've been thinking that a big bore is in order, but have heard that Marlins don't like lead. Any truth to this?
 
The microgroove barrels need oversized rounds to properly engage the shallower rifling.
They shoot great with lead.
the non microgrooved ones shoot amazing with almost any projectile.


Jim
 
heard that Marlins don't like lead. Any truth to this?
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That is a myth...Microgroove rifling is extremely accurate with lead bullets.
I shoot the RCBS 300 grain, cast lead, flat point, gas checked bullet (sized .458) from my 1895S .45-70 with 26-50 grains of IMR 4198 and with any powder charge in that range I get sub-moa groups at 100 yards!
 
FoMoGo said:
My wife will be laying claim to one of them.
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An addiction you can share ... I love happy endings ... particularly at Christmas! :D
 
Correct me if I am wrong.
The Microgrove is designed to shoot well with the jacketed bullets or gas check.
The Cowboy or button rifeled is for the lead or jacketed.
I was always under the impression that the lead would deposit in the microgroves and not let many rounds be fired before leading compromised accuracy.
I have several Marlins 39,336, 1895 and my forst gun a bolt action marlin Glenfield in .22 which I worked a full summer at $1 an hour to buy for $42.50 plus the several bricks of .22
 
Don't they have some limitations when it comes to OAL as well? I know folks who have these Marlins and they've talked about not being able to use certain loads with the heavier bullets because they're too long the clear the lifter. My memory is failing me, but as I recall anything 400 grains or over seemed to be too long.
 
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but as I recall anything 400 grains or over seemed to be too long.
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I don't have any feeding issues with Remington 405gr JSP or Oregon Trail 405gr LFP. I haven't tried any bullets lighter or heavier.
 
Perhaps it was an earlier model?


Over a decade ago I knew a fellow who owned a small gun shop. Marlin was just introducing some of these rifles. He liked the .45-70 and ordered one of the newer (at the time) models. Some months later I asked him how he was enjoying it. He spoke about how he never could use any of his single shot loads over 350 grains in the model he owned. OAL was too long, and wouldn't clear the lifter from the magazine into the chamber. Perhaps some changes were made on later models.

He's not the only fellow I know who had one of those Marlins who experience that OAL issue with heavy loads.
 
My name is Coltdriver and I am a buffalo gun addict.

Easily my most used rifle. I love the 45 70. I am currently tinkering with trying to figure out the arc on a 405 grain bullet that runs at about 1350 fps. Dead soft lead. Mine is a 22 inch 1895 in blue. Put a real nice fore arm on it and made a cartridge carrier for the buttstock. Pure nostalgia and about as much fun as there is with a lever gun!
 
I've always wanted one of those, with a scout-mount red dot or Burris 2x pistol scope. Sexy is the right word for it.
 
FoMoGo said:
They are HIGHLY addictive!!!
The wife picked me up a first year production of the new rifles, 1972, a couple of months ago.
Some of the best entertainment I have had at the range.
Picked up an 1895 STP, 5 round mag... stainless... 16.25" barrel, earlier this month.
NICE boomer.
Then we were at one of the gun shops on our "wonder what we can find" circuit and ran across an 1895 SBL.
Darling wife puts THAT one on layaway.
Best friend goes to the range with us and asks about buying the 1st year one... has to have it.
So, we sold that one to him to help pay for the SBL.

So yea.. dont pick one up.
Dont fondle one.
And never EVER shoot one.

Its a sickness I tell you.

However, I have to say the STP is a sexy beast... had a guy ask if it was a .22.
You should have seen his eyes when I tossed him one of the rounds for it.
154374_473109184206_543839206_5441056_8338566_n.jpg



Jim
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And whatever you do, don't check out the 1895G that I have posted for sale over on http://marlinowners.com

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Drat! I've blissfully .45-70 free for about 7 months and now I have all of you saying don't handle them at the gun store. AND I just saw last night that Marlin makes the 1895GBL (I'm quick on the uptake! ;) ), which is a perfect match for my 336BL in .30-30. AND I have a bunch of loaded .45-70 ammo, brass and bullets just sitting in a corner of the reloading bench.

Thanks guys, you're a BIG help... :cuss:
 
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