steel case ammo ever broke your pistol?

[kilibreaux]

It's not the CASE that determines how the ammo performs.

If the ammo is loaded appropriately steel cases eject the same as brass cases...if anything steel cases "want to get out of the chamber" more than brass due to the laqueur coating.

If steel case ammo harms your gun then you bought a POS WEAK gun....I've shot a gazillion rounds of steel cased ammo from both rifle and pistol with no issues.

 

[gbeecher]

It's not the CASE that determines how the ammo performs.

If the ammo is loaded appropriately steel cases eject the same as brass cases...if anything steel cases "want to get out of the chamber" more than brass due to the laqueur coating.

If steel case ammo harms your gun then you bought a POS WEAK gun....I've shot a gazillion rounds of steel cased ammo from both rifle and pistol with no issues.

I have a Mosin-Nagant rifle and a Hi-Point C9 pistol. I've shot 100 rounds fmj Wolf WPA steel case thru the C9 with no problem. (342 total rounds fired, fmj, for 2 double-feed and 2 fail-to-feed). On the Mosin, all I shoot is steel case. 305 rounds of Brown Bear lacquer coated, Silver Bear zinc coated and Novosibirsk copper washed steel case. Actually, in my Mosin, the Brown Bear lacquer coated steel case cycles the easiest.

 

[ATLDave]

It's not 9mm, but here's an actual study/experiment that someone ran. Draw your own conclusions: http://www.luckygunner.com/labs/brass-vs-steel-cased-ammo/

 

[Edster12]

Not mine but I did see a Glock in 40 at LGS the other day. It was blowed apart and sitting on the box of ammo that did it. Not sure of the brand but I did see Russia on the label. The shell case was sitting there too, blowed out right where the infamous Glock Bulge would be.

 

[decoy562]

I've shot 50 rounds of TulAmmo in my LCP recently with no issues.

 

[dogtown tom]

kilibreaux It's not the CASE that determines how the ammo performs.

Sure it is.
Steel cases are less ductile than brass, and in a straight walled case like 9x19, .45, .380 or .233/5.56 they allow more carbon buildup at the case mouth than brass. Brass seals better than steel. This is of little concern with tapered cases like 7.62x39. This buildup of carbon, if not cleaned, will eventually cause function issues. "Sticky" cases are caused by carbon buildup, not melting lacquer.

If the ammo is loaded appropriately steel cases eject the same as brass cases...if anything steel cases "want to get out of the chamber" more than brass due to the laqueur coating.

"Lacquer" has nothing to do with it. And neither would any other type of coating.

As far as "want to get out of the chamber more"........steel IS at a slight disadvantage as noted above.

If steel case ammo harms your gun then you bought a POS WEAK gun....I've shot a gazillion rounds of steel cased ammo from both rifle and pistol with no issues.

So have I.
Won't feed Tula, Monarch, Herters, Brown Bear, CCI Al Blazer?.....I don't want that gun.

 

[gbeecher]

Sure it is.
Steel cases are less ductile than brass, and in a straight walled case like 9x19, .45, .380 or .233/5.56 they allow more carbon buildup at the case mouth than brass. Brass seals better than steel. This is of little concern with tapered cases like 7.62x39. This buildup of carbon, if not cleaned, will eventually cause function issues. "Sticky" cases are caused by carbon buildup, not melting lacquer.




"Lacquer" has nothing to do with it. And neither would any other type of coating.

As far as "want to get out of the chamber more"........steel IS at a slight disadvantage as noted above.





So have I.
Won't feed Tula, Monarch, Herters, Brown Bear, CCI Al Blazer?.....I don't want that gun.

The polymer/lacquer coating found on some cartridges does reduce the coefficient of friction between the case and chamber, which can help with chambering and extraction. Case material has less to do with performance than the dimensional specs of different ammo types and brands. The steel case material itself will not harm a gun.

 

[Rusty Luck]

I've shot tons of steel out of my XDms 9mm, with never an issue. Same with my AR15s. Just keep then clean and lubricated.

 

[dogtown tom]

gbeecher .....The polymer/lacquer coating found on some cartridges does reduce the coefficient of friction between the case and chamber, which can help with chambering and extraction.

The polymer or lacquer coating is to prevent the case from rusting.

 

[sakata8242]

It's not going to "break" your gun. If a gun won't feed/function with cheap ammo then I don't want it for serious use. The casings don't eject as far because the steel stuff tends to be underpowered.

 

[forindooruseonly]

Wait, doesn't internet lore dictate that steel cases will wear out extractors in the matter of a few hundred rounds?

I don't mess with steel stuff cause I reload, but I've seen that bit of warning posted ad nauseam on forums..

 

[USAF_Vet]

Its a wonder any of my guns extract at all. My Hi Point .45 was fed a steady diet of everything but brass. No, it did have about a half box of Blazer brass before I sold it. Total.rounds down the pipe, about 500

My AR is about 50/50 steel to brass. About 1k and going strong

My Smith and Wesson 469 is also about 50/50 brass to steel, and I've lost count of how many rounds I've put through it, and I got it used.

All the stories of steel cases breaking extractors lack one commonality: evidence.

 

[792mauser]

Has it ever broke my pistols? Nope, just left me broke.
Only problems I ever had with steel case were
1) inconsistent and underpowered cartridges on occasion.
2) There never seems to be enough.
3) Dirty

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

I tried one box of Tula in my Glock recently. It functioned fine and even put a number of bullets in the same hole.