STI Spartan what's inside??

[marine 97-03]

I wonder at witch model do the internals change from or differ from the Spartan ?

 

[Sam1911]

Personally, I think its kinda crappy to the American worker that they would take a box of parts and ship it elsewhere so it can be shipped back here to be sold. Surely they could pay Americans to do the same thing?

I've been reading a bit about globalization recently (Tom Friedman's The World Is Flat is a really interesting read...though exhaustively long) and it seems the picture is a lot more complicated than just "give those jobs to Americans." It is pretty easy to end up with a company benefiting the American worker MORE by putting some portion of the work flow overseas, than to hold everything here in the 'States and have to be a much less productive company employing FEWER workers here on balance.

That topic gets way outside our scope at THR, but it is worth studying if you're concerned with such issues.

 

[ljnowell]

I've been reading a bit about globalization recently (Tom Friedman's The World Is Flat is a really interesting read...though exhaustively long) and it seems the picture is a lot more complicated than just "give those jobs to Americans." It is pretty easy to end up with a company benefiting the American worker MORE by putting some portion of the work flow overseas, than to hold everything here in the 'States and have to be a much less productive company employing FEWER workers here on balance.

That topic gets way outside our scope at THR, but it is worth studying if you're concerned with such issues.

Its interesting reading for sure, but I agree, kinda out of our scope for THR.

 

[9mmepiphany]

I wonder at witch model do the internals change from or differ from the Spartan ?

Without having asked that specific question of the factory, it would be hard to give a definitive answer...it is part of the weakness of knowing a bit more than some about the 1911; you don't ask for answers that don't really make a difference.

However my experience with STI would lead me to believe that there isn't a model that differs or changes. It makes no economic sense to make different parts for the internals...especially for a modern manufacturing company using CNC machining.

What differs as you move up the model lines is the amount of hand fitting and finishing applied. I've handled and shot more than a couple of STI models over the last year and I could easily tell the difference in feel and operation between the Spartan and the Trojan.

 

[marine 97-03]

But for the price would you say the Spartan is a solid 1911

 

[9mmepiphany]

But for the price

...depends on what you mean by solid?

At less than $1000, I'd be more likely to go with a RIA Tactical and use the leftover money to add what I wanted.

I think the STI Trojan is the best value for dollars spent, and think it rivals the Dan Wesson CBOB

But my idea of what a 1911 should have, may very likely be different than yours

 

[Dryft]

What's inside the STI Spartan?


Bullets.


Hopefully I'm not the only one who thinks that's funny.

 

[marine 97-03]

What's inside the STI Spartan?


Bullets.


Hopefully I'm not the only one who thinks that's funny.

 

[marine 97-03]

MIM parts....

There are NO mim parts in the Spartan ..THEre EDM the good stuff

 

[rollingradios]

I had the STI SPartan V. Sold it and now own (2) Para Ordnance GI Experts. DEFINITELY IMO prefer the Para experts.

 

[lono]

Had a full size spartan for about 2 months lost $150 bucks from buying new to selling used. IMHO just not a great 1911, not accurate compared to any of the other 5 brands of 1911 I have owned.

 

[tuj]

My Spartan will hold 5" 10-shot groups with quality ammo at 50 yards from a rest. I don't know many 1911's under $1000 that will consistently do that. My Les Baer will hold 1.5" but that's a different league.

 

[LiveLife]

My Spartan will hold 5" 10-shot groups with quality ammo at 50 yards from a rest. I don't know many 1911's under $1000 that will consistently do that.

How about 2.5" at 50 yards with sub $1000 Ruger SR1911? - http://www.1911addicts.com/showthread.php?982-Ruger-SR1911-Review

Or 1.5" at 25 yards? - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=626373

 

[tuj]

How about 2.5" at 50 yards with sub $1000 Ruger SR1911?

JoeC (I'm guessing that's Mr. Chambers) did extensive mods to his Ruger. Mr. Chambers also said that most of his groups were around 5" at 50 yards.

- Corrected the guide rod to prevent it from hitting the barrel legs
- Corrected the mag catch to prevent it from hitting the mag follower
- Corrected the slide stop to prevent it from hitting rounds during feeding
- Corrected the frame feed ramp by widening, deepening and polishing it
- Corrected the ejection port by lowering it to approx .410” from the bottom of the slide
- Corrected the ejector nose angle for consistent ejection
- Corrected the extractor for both tension and nose position
- Corrected the link slot in the frame for proper clearance
- Corrected the grip screw bushing that were protruding into the frame
- Corrected the breech face for smoother feeding
- Corrected the barrel throat and polished it
- Crowned the barrel
- Welded and re-cut the barrel hood for a tolerance of less than .001” to the breech face
- Cut the chamber to a depth of .905” for best accuracy and reliability
- Replaced the bushing with a match fit MGW stainless bushing (you need a wrench to remove it)
- I.D. of bushing is .58125” O.D. of barrel is .58075” Total tolerance is .0005"
- Cut the Marvel Disconnector slot cut in the slide for smoother function
- Replaced the Ti firing pin with a steel EGW part
- Replaced the 20lb recoil spring with an 18lb Wolf
- Replaced the mainspring with a 23lb Wolf
- Replaced the link with one correctly dimensioned for the barrel legs
- Blended rear of slide, ejector, extractor to match the frame
- Complete trigger job with short roll set at 4lbs 2oz
o Sear at .765” oal
o Hammer hooks at .018”
o Disconnector at 1.3015”
o Corrected trigger bow in frame
o Tightened MSH to frame
o Corrected sear spring
o Corrected hammer strut