stock drop in old SxS

[stevehaun]

I have a question for the group:
I normally shoot a browning bps. Last year I bought a 20 gauge stevens 311 and this summer a 12 guage stevens 311 followed me home from a gun show. Both of these SxS have significantly more drop in the stock (older style) than my bps. Unless I make a conscious effort to keep my head more erect while shooting, I tend to shoot under my targets. Anything I can do to these guns without making serious stock alterations? Any suggestions?

 

[ArmedBear]

Which BPS variant do you have?

You could get one of these things: http://www.cheeknstock.com/main.html

A standard BPS has pretty standard measurements, exactly same as a Wingmaster. I don't think the 311 is THAT different.

Some variants, though, have relatively high, straight combs, as do at least some Browning Golds.

EDIT: I looked at the Stalker. It's like a Wingmaster. Then I looked at the Hunter. It's got stock dimensions almost like my Browning trap gun. Wierd.

So anyway, if you have a BPS Hunter, it's that gun that's non-typical. The 311 is similar to most production field guns you'll ever hold, new or old. They're made for shooting game from a low-gun position, where you bring the gun to your shoulder when you see the bird. The stock design works great for that.

What are you shooting? Trap?

 

[stevehaun]

I shoot skeet. The LOP on my BPS is 14 3/4" and the amount of drop is perfect for me, according to the patterning board. The LOP is about 14 1/4" on the stevens 311. My POA/POI is fine on the patterning board as long as I remember to keep my head up. My 12 gauge stevens 311 came with a recoil pad which gave it a length of pull of about 15" - I shot way low. I replaced the recoil pad with a butt plate (LOP 14 1/4") and I now I am back on target, providing I keep my head up. The stock pad seems like it should be helpful.

 

[ArmedBear]

You shoot high-gun, with both the BPS and the 311s?

Perhaps you would like a Cheek N Stock thingie. I shoot with several people who like them (or equivalent).

 

[stevehaun]

No, I am a bird hunter who shoots skeet (poorly I might add). I shoot low gun.

 

[ArmedBear]

Which BPS do you have?

 

[stevehaun]

BPS hunter with 28 inch barrels.

 

[huntsman]

Measure the drop of all you shotguns, at the place on the comb were your cheek touches. You can buy lace on pads with different heights to put on the 311's to match the BPS stock.

 

[ArmedBear]

The BPS Hunter hardly has any drop at all, about 1/8" different from a straight-comb BT-99.

That's no problem, though. People use the lace-ons and the thingies linked above to get a lot higher than that, sometimes.

That's what I'd do.

 

[stevehaun]

ArmedBear,
My BPS fits me fine, it is the Stevens 311s that have an excessive drop to the stock. I think a pad on the comb will help out.

 

[Dave McCracken]

Do it on the cheap for trsting. Cardboard and masking tape. Add a little on top, and pattern. Keep going until you've got it dialed in. Then, try the KickEez pads and match the dimensions up.

 

[huntsman]

I had an old timer tell me once to glue strips of mol-hair (SP?) on the comb. I still have a few of these rubber pads that outers sold in the 70's with some kind of adhesive on the back,I never used them cause I didn't want to gunk up my stocks.
I'll bet those 311s are like 1-1/4" to 2-3/8" comb to heel,thats what my old fultons and nitro were stocked. more modern US guns run 1-1/2" to 2-1/4" game guns 1-1/2"DC to 2-1/2"DH

 

[ArmedBear]

My BPS fits me fine, it is the Stevens 311s that have an excessive drop to the stock.

I understand that.

And you're right; the drop of a standard field gun is FAR more than the BPS Hunter.

If the BPS Hunter fits you, adding height to another gun will work. And don't get a BPS Stalker. It's the same as the Stevens, pretty much.