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I have a Stoeger 2000 shotgun and durin last dove season the shell cache screwed up and during the process of findin a dealer to warrant it I was told that alot of people don't like stoeger and that the customer service is crappy (took about a month to get mine back) but wondering if some of thats true? I was looking at the stoeger that resembled the Benelli Vinci and after i heard that, I didn't pay much attention to it after that. other than my little problem I have shot the stoeger more than any other gun i own and has been great. whats ya'lls opinion
 
The are a Turkish gun company, they make clones, except I do know that their Beretta's are build on the original machines, set up by Beretta, can't buy a new 8000 series, but you can buy a Stoeger Cougar. The shot guns have a good rep for value.
 
Lanber has a much better reputation for value priced shotguns - The build quality is said to be visibly better, but they are a bit of a rare brand so i've never seen one in person.

They make value-minded semis and OUs in Spain. They can be found in the 600-800 range new, depending on model.
 
A Turkish gun company? How do you figure?

"In the 1990s, the Stoeger company was purchased by Finnish rifle manufacturer Sako. In 2000, Sako was acquired by Beretta Holding S.p.A. At that time, Stoeger Industries was placed under the ownership of Benelli USA, where it remains today as a member of the Benelli USA family of companies."
 
Are you talking the distributor, or the manufacture, as for turkey, funny little roll stamp on the side of the gun says turkey, hence, company in turkey = Turkish company
 
yeah mine has turkey on the side of it but alot of the benelli designs internal and external are quite obvious.
 
Problem: company not in Turkey.

But maybe their plant is, or they contract it out to someone who IS in Turkey. Beretta Group is an Italian-based, multinational maker of guns for all uses, with plants all over the world
 
I bought a Stoeger five years ago for my son (over/under 12 g). We had a minor problem immediately following purchase but their CS was wonderfull. My son has taken it clay shooting a number of time with no functional issues. It was a good bargin at $400.
 
"But maybe their plant is"

Come on, Honda has plants in the U.S., but it's not an American company anymore than Stoeger is a Turkish company.

John
 
But that doesn't mean that Stoegers aren't built in Turkey, where some plants have spotty reps for quality. When guns are built to specific price points, (and LOW ones at that), something has to get cut in the quality arena
 
The autoloaders are. The O/U Condor line and the SxS guns are made in Brazil.

Don't tell me - Stoeger is a Turkish company and Brazilian company too. :)

John
 
I have a cougar in 9mm and a condor in 12g. They are both great. No problems with either. I think Shadow is right. I read an article that the cougar is built in Turkey on Beretta's old machines. The fit and finish is as good as I would expect from Beretta but at a much lower cost.
 
Steoger is, like Charles Daly and Interarms and many others, a company that pieces together a product line by sourcing guns from other manufacturers. Some guns made here, some guns made there....

Let's try to reel this one back on track by discussing the actual merits of each of their offerings. :)
 
Stoeger's quality, IMO, over the last few years (or is it decades now?), has been spotty to poor, much like Daly's for the guns they are having being built. They have chosen to go into the low-price, volume-type gun sale arena where price point comes first. Not saying a good one or two won't make it out - laws of averages dictate it should. Hopefully, as the Turks get better with their new equipment, things will get better on a more consistent basis. If I was currently looking for a SxS or O/U, Stoeger would not be in the running. I DID just buy a S&W Elite Gold SxS, made by the UTAS brothers in Turkey. They made that gun and the Kimber before both were dropped. Both are excellent guns, so it is NOT a "Turkish" thing, it is a CHEAP Turkish thing, just as it would be a CHEAP American, Chinese, Brazilian, or any other country where the objective is to crank them out and sell them like Walmart sells stiff - low margin in high volume.

Farming out the work is also not inherently a bad thing - the English "Best" guns have had small cottage-industry outside workers for centuries,making many of the critical components. It is the time, craftsmanship, and ability to create a quality item, as opposed to a "good enough" item that makes the difference.

YMMV
 
Ok, I don't really track the shotguns, but I do know that their cougar line, is the Beretta pistol, built on the Beretta machinery, so I guess it's like a car manufacture dumping a workhorse product to the 'value' brand when it gets phased out of the main line.

I have heard good things about the O/U shotguns too, but never even seen one.
 
"the actual merits of each of their offerings"

And that depends on who made which model and on which continent and then there's the service aspect and parts availability. Iow, do they send the guns to Brazil for major repairs or do they get shipped to Turkey? I assume the minor repairs are done stateside.


"Stoeger's quality, IMO, over the last few years (or is it decades now?), has been spotty to poor,"

That might well be true concerning the shotguns they imported. If you include rifles it isn't true -the part about decades- because I have a Stoeger-marked Sako rifle.

John
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"In the 1990s, the Stoeger company was purchased by Finnish rifle manufacturer Sako. In 2000, Sako was acquired by Beretta Holding S.p.A."
 
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