Is there or should there be a web site where police agencies could post a list of all guns reported stolen in their jursidiction. No one but police agencies could post but anyone could view and report. It would be a national site for those guns that cross state lines etc.. I realize there are possibilities for abuse here but I'm interested in everyones opinion.
Stolen Gun Registery
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Double Naught Spy
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One thing is certain. If such a registry existed, fewer guns would be recovered from gun shops and pawn shops as the owners would check the registry before accepting the guns. They would not knowing accept stolen guns and hence they would not end up recovered from those businesses.
Impureclient
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Or they would immediately call the police after checking. Police come and catch the criminal and get the gun back to the owner.
Why would they check, see it's stolen and just let them walk out without giving the bad guys info to the police?
horsemen61
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I see more of a chance to abuse it and its a slippery slope you are on here with a National registry 
medalguy
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How would it be regulated? Who would pay for it? NCIC does the very same thing, it's national, it's restricted to official agencies, it lists lots more than just firearms, and it's updated whenever a stolen item is recovered.
lemaymiami
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As noted by the last poster a "registry" already exists (and has for many, many years) in the form of NCIC... Any officer can find out very quickly whether a firearm is reported stolen (and a "stolen" entry lasts years and years, cuts across every state line, etc.). In the event any offender is foolish enough to attempt to alter, deface or remove the serial number that's an arrestable offense the moment he/she if found in possession of that gun....
In my years on the street I recovered quite a few reported stolen weapons (and a few that hadn't been reported). A few of them were originally reported stolen years and years before I came across them.....
The giveaway for anyone considering purchasing a weapon that might be stolen is when the seller does everything possible not to identify himself to the buyer (and I would want solid I.D. to record before ever making a purchase -if the purchase is from an individual instead of a store or shop.....
In my years on the street I recovered quite a few reported stolen weapons (and a few that hadn't been reported). A few of them were originally reported stolen years and years before I came across them.....
The giveaway for anyone considering purchasing a weapon that might be stolen is when the seller does everything possible not to identify himself to the buyer (and I would want solid I.D. to record before ever making a purchase -if the purchase is from an individual instead of a store or shop.....
Schutzen
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As a victim of a robbery, I can assure you the NCIC System is active and working. 70% of my stolen property was recovered in the first 2 weeks after the robbery. The key to the whole process is local law enforcement. If local LEO's quickly process and post to NCIC the descriptions and or serial numbers of stolen property it is much more likely items will be recovered. In my case a handgun was recovered in a traffic stop 48 hours after the robbery. That recovery led to the recovery of multiple items from multiple robberies/burglaries. Had my local sheriff's department not uploaded descriptions and serial numbers to NCIC the day of the robbery, I doubt any recoveries would have been made.
As a victim of a robbery, I can assure you the NCIC System is active and working. 70% of my stolen property was recovered in the first 2 weeks after the robbery. The key to the whole process is local law enforcement. If local LEO's quickly process and post to NCIC the descriptions and or serial numbers of stolen property it is much more likely items will be recovered. In my case a handgun was recovered in a traffic stop 48 hours after the robbery. That recovery led to the recovery of multiple items from multiple robberies/burglaries. Had my local sheriff's department not uploaded descriptions and serial numbers to NCIC the day of the robbery, I doubt any recoveries would have been made.
Not sure if it is local or state, but stolen guns simply don't end up in local pawn shops. Local pawn dealers are required to get full ID and take a photo of anyone bringing in a gun. The SN is entered into a database and they must keep the gun for 10 days before they can sell it to give local LE a chance to see if it is stolen.
lemaymiami
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In most jurisdictions around the country pawn shops are actually required to file a regular report on items taken in along with serial numbers if present to their local police department.... That makes pawn shops in places with tight restrictions the last place a thief wants to go.
On the other side of the coin, in many towns you'll see signs and ads "we buy gold".... In those kind of places the real signs should read "burglars and thieves welcome"...
And so it goes, -Vonnegut
On the other side of the coin, in many towns you'll see signs and ads "we buy gold".... In those kind of places the real signs should read "burglars and thieves welcome"...
And so it goes, -Vonnegut
CharlieDeltaJuliet
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There is http://www.hotgunz.com . Not sure how well it works.
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Because those businesses do not want to have such disturbances going on inside their businesses. If the person with the gun is indeed a criminal who is known to be armed, would you want to force a confrontation with the police inside your business instead of just letting the person leave safely, with no harm to you, your business or your customers?
Do you want your customers to see the cops showing up at your place of business such that it looks like a crime scene? Such things are often VERY BAD for business.
So you have a person with a stolen gun in your business and you call the cops. How long will it take the cops to arrive? Based on average response times, especially for non-emergencies, you could be stuck trying to keep this "criminal" in your business for a few minutes to an hour. If the guy is a criminal as you happen to think he is, do you really think it is in your best interest to try to keep him in close proximity to you for an extended period of time?
That is why the business isn't apt to call the cops so that the cops can just come and "catch the criminal." It isn't that simple and it is potentially very dangerous, not to mention bad for business.
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