Stolen gun

[mesinge2]

Right here

http://pas.fdle.state.fl.us/pas/item/displayGunSearch.a

btw, I agree with zignal_zero that your lack of trust of law enforcement is odd.

 

[zignal_zero]

As I post this, it brings up a thought I never had....I wonder if it was ever removed from the registry when it was returned.

unfortunately, sometimes, mistakes ARE made and items are NOT removed from NCIC after being recovered. once, a recovered car was not removed. Police performed a felony stop of the righful owner, who (oddly enough) was returning from a family members funeral and was distraught. he acted aggressively and police, believing they were arrest a felon actually shot the man. this is not common, though. ALOT of care is given to making sure recovered items are properly removed from NCIC

 

[Tacbandit]

Quote:
"All I wanted to know is if there is a web site to look up stolen guns ."

Quote:
"not exactly what you asked though....."


RKellogg...you did make your question clear...
"Is there a web sites out there you can look up the gun and see if it is stolen or would you have to contact a LEO to find out ."

However, the answer isn't so cut and dry, as you found out....You didn't just ask a question, but you added thought process as well. If you aren't ok with trusting LE, I suppose you won't. As for the shotgun, make a record of the gift...As for future private FTF transactions...at a minimum, do a bill of sale(model, serial #, to/from, date, time,etc...), put it up for safe keeping. Most of these folks are well meaning, just trying to offer info you requested. Whether or not you heed it...that's up to you. You might just try calling local LE and ask if they have a procedure for that, as every LE dept. can differ...just my .02

 

[mgkdrgn]

NCIC? FCIC? i run guns all the time, their serial numbers are checked against those in a HUGE DATA BASE, in effect - a registry of stolen guns.

i mean maybe we're talking about symantics, here. a true "registry" might be defined differently, but when the victim reports a firearm stolen - the serial number, make, model #, and victim's name is most definately stored electronically. same goes for cars, 4-wheelers, kids, endangered adults, etc.

Are those resources available to an FFL ot the general public? I'd love to be able to check the "previously owned" guns I'm about to purchase for resale against such a listing.

I saw the post about the web site for the State of Florida ... but that was only for FLORIDA. I'm not about to go searching 50 different state (and however many different territories/possessions there are at the moment) lists.

 

[zignal_zero]

I saw the post about the web site for the State of Florida ... but that was only for FLORIDA. I'm not about to go searching 50 different state (and however many different territories/possessions there are at the moment) lists.

even thought that's the FDLE site, i believe they're checking the SN's through NCIC and not FCIC. so, u'd get a "hit" even if it was boosted from another state. it just happens to be Florida's site. i could be wrong, but i'm pretty sure that's what's going on there.

but, Yes, NCIC is national and all (reported) stolen firearms are stored in the database. and YEP, it's mighty handy

 

[gyvel]

2 the statue of limitations has expired

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There isn't statue of limitations on stolen guns, stolen guns stay in the afs .

Glad you mentioned that.

Where can I go to see if a gun is still in the NCIC database?

Here's the situation:

In the mid '80s (ca. 1986), I purchased a new Smith & Wesson Model 48 (ON a 4473) that turned out to be a lemon.

I sent it back to the regional repair center in Alabama.

In transit, it was lost/stolen from UPS, who paid the claim for the gun, so no problem there.

Since I had purchased it new from a legit gun store on a 4473, I then decided to list it as stolen with my local police department, the *MIRAMAR, FLORIDA POLICE DEPT*.

I moved from Miramar, FL to Arizona in '89.

About a year or two after that, I called long distance to inquire about the status of the gun and was informed that all stolen property reports filed with the *MIRAMAR, FLORIDA P.D.* were purged after 3 years from their computers.

I was flabbergasted and asked the officer if that included stolen guns as well, and was told, yes, it indeed included stolen guns as well.

Their rationale was that, in Florida, after 3 years, possession of stolen goods became a misdemeanor, thus not worthy of taking up valuable space in their computers. (Never mind that this was a Federal crime, since the gun was stolen in transit to another state.):banghead:

Luckily, I retained the stolen gun report issued by those idiots.

Obviously, a new gun purchased through a legit gun store would be a piece of cake to trace back to me if it ever showed up as being used in a crime.

So, if anyone can steer me into where I might be able to see if that gun is still listed, I would apppreciate it.