Storing a Remington 1100/11-87

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On another forum I read the following post on Remington 1100 and 11-87 "faults".

If stored with the bolt open, or with the trigger fired (hammer down), the "Intercepter latch spring" pn 15383 is compressed. The spring will fatigue over time and prematurely fail. This is easily solved by storing the gun with bolt closed hammer cocked.

I have never read this before and have done a search with no applicable results. Can anyone familiar with the Remington 1100's and 11-87's offer an opinion on the validity of this post?
 
My dad has had a Remington 1100 since 1967 and 10 years ago replaced the recoil spring as it was broke (it had broke into 3 pieces but all 3 pieces had bound on itself and it still functioned). To be honest you couldn't tell by firing the shotgun that anything was broke, but it cycled slow at times. My dad took it to a local gunsmith (who is also a Remington authorized service center) to go through the entire thing and replace anything worn. The buffer pad ( I think that is what it was called) was originally aluminum and had a recall in the late 60's to have that part replaced. What was happening is that part would get hammered flat and squeeze shut on the tang off the back of the bolt, the recall replaced it with a steel one. However my dad was in Vietnam at the time so it didn't get done and like I said 10 years ago it was all gone through and these two parts were replaced, as well as the firing pin spring which had also broke and bound on itself and still functioned.

He has always kept the shotgun clean, the blueing is worn off in several spots but there is no rust anywhere. He stored it in safe, hammer cocked and maybe action open or action shut, didn't really bother him as it was stored unloaded, on safe in a gun cabinet.
ALWAYS WENT BANG!

So to answer your question I think it matters not.
 
My 1100 is 30 years old and the only thing I ever did to it was replace the rubbler gas seal, not because it was bad but I knew it had shot quite a few rounds thru it and it was due?! Other than that it has sat in my gun vault along with the other 3 barrels all that time, and to be honest I've got no idea whether the arm had been cocked, the bolt open or closed, except the weapon had been unloaded when placed in the vault. Every time I've taken that gun out to shoot it never has failed me.;)
 
All the buffers have always been plastic. Sometimes white plastic, sometimes black, but always plastic. I have a 63' and it is .... plastic. The purpose of the buffer is to prevent steel to steel contact should something untoward happen, like your Dad's action spring failing.
Coil springs do NOT fatigue sitting still. Sort of an oxymoron if you look up the meaning of fatigue. They also do not lose strength from being stored compressed. The old flat springs would, hence the move to coil springs.
I have owned 12 Model 1100s/11-87s, and have worked on hundreds over the years.
 
I guess it wasn't a buffer then, some aluminum plate in the back was supposed to have been replaced in a recall and his never was.
 
I have seen Rem 1100s rust up on the feed tube and lock up action. After firing remove forearm and wipe down with Ed's Red (my first choice). Also clean crud from bore and leave wet with Ed's Red.
Excellent gun lubricant is Mobil 1 synthetic motor oil. I like 0W20, 0W30 and 5W20.
Dont leave it with hammer cocked.

Get extra O rings and keep handy.
 
There has been more than one alloy of aluminum used for the action spring follower, and some of those did not work well at all. Got thoroughly chewed by the link. That may have been what you were thinking of. I never heard of a recall though. I think they have gone to all steel ones now, and for the last couple of decades.
 
"This is easily solved by storing the gun with bolt closed hammer cocked. "

Leaving the interceptor latch spring compressed will cause it to fail but it is ok to leave the hammer spring compressed.
 
Leaving the interceptor latch spring compressed will cause it to fail but it is ok to leave the hammer spring compressed.

jdh:
Thanks for addressing the original question. I think you are saying that it is a good idea to leave the hammer spring compressed in order to prevent the interceptor latch spring from failing, and that the advice given in my 1st post "to leave the hammer cocked when storing" is a good idea. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
 
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I think that isn't what he is saying.

See the little guy waving the BS flag!

What he is saying is, if leaving one spring compressed is bad?
Then leaving the other spring compressed to save the first spring from being compressed is just as bad.

rc
 
1100 & 1187 Remingtons

Hammer Down - Bolt Closed Has Always Worked For Me
My Oldest Is a 68-1100 Currently Being Used as a Sporting Clays Gun
Changing Out Aged Out Or High Round Count Springs , Firing Pins, Gas Rings Etc. Is Part Of My Normal Tear Down Routine For Both Models

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My '63, '66', '70, and '78 still have all the original springs. The '63 was a Skeet gun for quite a while, too. My '76 Wingmaster Magnum is also all original. Call it a test in progress. In 50 years I have broken one extractor, in 1982.
 
I was implying it is BS to claim one spring will be damaged by leaving it compressed, the latch spring, yet another spring, the hammer spring, can stay compressed and it will not be damaged. Either springs are damaged by leaving them compressed or they are not.

texagun, you have a reply to your PM.
 
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