Strange coyote behavior?

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My son lives on the edge of the city with a large (180 acre) grass field behind his house.

So he lets his 12 year old black mongrel dog out to go pee at night, and he doesn't come back.

Upon further investigation with a strong light, he finds his dog playing with two coyotes in the field.
He whistles, his dog comes running back to the house with the two coyotes right behind him.

They stop at the boundary of his back yard, the dog comes in, and they go back to the field and resume hunting.

Back on the farm, a dog would have his throat slashed in two seconds if he messed with two coyotes in the middle of the night.

But, Nooooo!

He says he has seen them playing together several times now over the last three weeks.
In fact, they set just outside his yard now in the tall grass and wait for Aries to come out to play at night.

Anyone ever seen anything like this?

rc
 
Ive seen something similar but after doing a bit if research it appears alot of coyotes have been breeding with domestic dogs, the pups may have the outward appearance of a yote but still retain some form of domestic dog behavior .
 
Heck!

Maybe Aries is their daddy??
(Who's thier daddy? :D)

Coulda happened in that dark field one night last spring.
Maybe mamma became road kill and he took care of them?

rc
 
Ive heard they can also mate with grey wolves, but thats another story. Ive seen some reports of it in Texas and the rest of the western region, so its not exactly rare to hear about, I believe even History Channel had a view on their "Monster Quest " episodes on this very subject.
 
I have seen coyotes playing under peoples sprinklers in Mansfield, TX, near Ft Worth. I have no doubt young coyotes would play with a dog. Once they get a taste for dog the play will become hunting.
 
Have you considered the possibility that the two yotes are two horny females in heat?
 
I guess, IMO at least, the "viciousness" of coyotes is largely overblown. I grew up on a ranch in SOuth Dakota, with no shortage of coyotes (our state animal, actually). We've always had dogs, ranging from tiny "minature" beagles to labs is size. All our dogs have always been "outside" dogs year round. GUess how many we have had attacked by coyotes in my 37 years.....1? 2? 5? No...we have yet to lose a dog to a coyote attack, or even a calf for that matter. Its not that we don't have coyotes, as they are often seen in the yard and all around our building site. But,
Back on the farm, a dog would have his throat slashed in two seconds if he messed with two coyotes in the middle of the night.
doesn't remotely reflect reality in our area. Coyotes are in the vicinity the vast majority of nights, but even the tiny little beagle who resides on the ranch presently has never been attacked, let alone have "have hsi throat slashed in two seconds". With 350 head of cows and calves around, and haveing lived in rural SD 37 years, I have had my share of coyote encounters, and quite simply my observations over the years seem to indicate people attribute more "attitude" to coyotes than I have EVER personally witnessed.
 
I would imagine this is the time of year when coyotes are mating. I know foxes are mating and there cant be much difference. They've been known to mate with dogs and wolves for that matter otherwise we would never see the 70 pound coyotes I have seen in Canada.

I don't know if they would eat a dog I know they will make cats go away.

Good luck and shoot straight

Bob
 
Urban coyotes are weird. We just lost a dog to farm coyotes though...so I agree with you. We don't have that kind of behavior out here in rural western KS, our problem is that we're starting to pick up a few half coyote half wolves drifting from Wyoming, and that's a whole new vicious animal to deal with. Big and strong, and not scared. Bad combination.
 
If I were your son I would be worried more about the diseases that those coyotes carry. One puncture wound or tick transfer from one of the coyotes could put not only his dog at risk but his family also. Hopefully he has his dog current on all vaccines.

Distemper
Hepatitis
Paro Virus
Mange
Rabies
Tularemia
Various Parasites

Main concern is Rabies and Tularemia which can be transmitted to other dogs and humans. I for one would think twice before letting my dog play around with coyotes. There is a reason the Fish and Game have no limit on coyotes in most states.
 
I live in rural ok. . One night while calling my boston terrier back into the house I saw that he was under attack by three coyotes . There was one on each end streching him out & one chomping on him in the middle . They were about 75 ' from the porch . I yelled at them & they released my dog . [ They didn't imediately run away .] He was able to stagger back to the porch . he made it till I could get him to a vet the next morning who managed to save him with surgery . I had been kind of lenient toward the coyote population till then . I began a coyote eradication program [on going ] , but so far have only thinned their ranks a little . However the battle has been joined & will continue until I'm no longer able .
 
I have seen two packs of canines on our lease in Alabama that consisted of both dogs (coy-dogs?) and coyotes. Perhaps they were all coy-dogs but some took on the coyote look while others were dog-looking.
In both packs the leaders were large males resembling dogs more than coyotes. I killed 2 out of one pack .. none out of the other.

About 18 months ago 2 coyotes came into my front pasture at 11:00 AM. My 32 lb. female Boykin spaniel saw them and ran at them, knocking the smaller one over and trying to bite it. Both of the coyotes took off like scalded dogs.
 
"...don't know if they would eat a dog..." Yep. Lots of little dogs get 'et by Wiley.
Aries might be trying to get his ashes hauled too. He is 12 after all. Old guys, I mean dogs, need a bit of lovin' too.
Yesterday, the local coppers tazered then shot a coyote that was declared a hazard for trying to find a bite to eat and a warm place to spend the day. Running around a residential neighbourhood very close to downtown London. Got himself on TV by sniffing around the local TV news truck before he was shot.
 
I live in rural western Indiana, about 20 miles from Illinois; we have a BIG coyote, deer, and turkey population. It's been my experience that about the only accurate thing you can say about coyotes is that no two of them show the same behavior.

Until about 6 months ago, my wife had a "coy dog"; her mother was a border collie and her "daddy" was a coyote. When she was still just a pup, (long before my wife and I ever knew each other ), there was a red fox that had a den right across the gravel road in front of our house; the fox had a litter of little foxes, and one day the wife sees Steamer across the road, playing with 2 or 3 little fox kits, (I think that's what they call them); for the next few months, Steamer spent more time with the foxes than she did at home.

We don't see a lot of coyotes, but we hear them almost every night, especially in the warmer months. Being "big" on wildlife photography, I spend a lot of time and energy tramping around in the thousands of acres of woods in the general vicinity of where we live; sometimes I would have needed a pretty decent rifle with a pretty decent scope to ever get a shot at a coyote; other times I could have probably killed one with a ball bat! Coyotes are....."unpredictable".......(and I can assure you, they will definitely impregnate your female "house dog" if you allow her to run! ) Another even more pressing reason NOT to allow a house "pet" dog to "roam", is ticks; our neighbor's big white German Sheppard contracted Lyme Disease from a tick bite, and their vet bills have been astronomical since. (Another reason why I use a lot of repellent when I'm out & about; ) Lyme Disease is BAD NEWS!

We also have a 20 lb. rat terrier named Peabody; (he thinks he's a 90 lb rottweiler ); until just the last year or two, every time I let him outside to do his business, if I took my eyes off of him for 2 seconds, he would dash across the road, into the woods, and you would not see hide nor hair of the little rat for the next 2 or 3 hours! Many nights, we could tell from their howling that there were a dozen coyotes within a stone's throw of the house, and I always expected that the coyotes would "get" Peabody, then my wife would "get" me!

For a long time I never even thought about taking a pistol with me when I go to the woods; I know a LOT of guys around her in the 11 years that I've been here, and just about everyone around here is either a deer hunter, a turkey hunter, a bow hunter......everyone here "hunts" something......and many of them have warned me about coyotes; even then I didn't get worried much about not having a firearm with me in the woods; that all ended about a year ago, when 4 or 5 different people reported (and SHOWED ) images taken by a trail camera of a mountain lion! Several of which were within 2 miles of my house! That's when I first started thinking about getting "something" to carry with me in the woods. (And if the opportunity presents it's self again, to try to help reduce the coyote population in the county. )

One thing IS for absolute certain, regarding coyotes; they are by far, the single most "adaptable" species of small mammal on Planet Earth! You could drop a hundred coyotes on parachutes out of an airplane, and regardless of where they all landed, every one of them would "make a living" and probably thrive! And no matter where they thrive, they can always "increase" their numbers faster than "we" can "decrease" them!
 
I've always heard that wild animals that start behaving tame are sick and probably with Rabies in the early stages.

My grandfather called the disease "The Pretender" because it reversed an animal's natural behavior and made it pretend to be something that it's not. i.e. A wild animal becomes tame and friendly and a domesticated animal becomes wild and fearful of human beings.

Other examples come to mind. Seeing animals that are nocturnal by nature moving about in the daylight hours. Bats...Raccoons...Possums, etc. Something is wrong.

It could be that the Coyotes were hand-raised by people and had thus become socialized with a pet dog...but it wouldn't be wise to bet on it. Exercise extreme caution any time that an animal as naturally wary of people as a Coyote starts to act like a friendly puppy.
 
I live not far from the Detroit border. Not long ago I watched two coyote
"playing" in the back yard, steadily getting closer to my girl who was laying down watching them.
I went out to get her when they got too close for my comfort, found a third sneaking up from behind, around the garage.
Smart little buggers they are.
 
The coyotes around here (there are plenty) are designated "eastern coyote" by the naturalists. Their DNA shows significant dog. The adult males run 50-70 pounds.
 
Several years ago, when we lived on the edge of the Shawnee forest here in Southern Illinois, my two german shepherds would regularly play with a pack of about 5 coyotes. It was fun to watch. My big male would run into one chest first and send him rolling, then they would run around in circles for awhile. Never got aggressive on either side.
 
That is definitely strange, and not likely something one would see around here. Our yotes, and even the more domesticated one's in the burbs, are out for blood, and would kill anything they feel capable of taking down. My first instinct would be to eliminate those yotes, that is not normal behavior.

One of my German Short hair pointer's I had would rule the land. When we bought our land, it was infested with yotes, I do mean infested. Within the first few weeks though our short hair either killed, or ran off most of them, not too mention the pack dogs running rampant around here. One after the other, he would kill them, and drag them back to the front door, retrieving is something most GSH's instinctively perform. The efficiency of the kill was obvious, throat torn out, with rarely a single scratch to be found on the short hair.

GS
 
I live in western Ky and the closest thing I have seen to this behavior is, I lived in the country, my closest neighbor was about a mile away and I could walk to my mailbox naked if I wanted to. Anyway I had a lab mix and a jack russell mix, one day I came home and both of them were playing with what I thought was another dog in the field behind my house, but upon calling them when I went inside I surprisingly realized it was a grey fox. When I called the dogs the fox came up within about twenty feet of me and when I fed my dogs I set a extra bowl of food out and when I went inside he ate right along with the dogs. He stayed around for a couple months and would let me pet him, so I considered him sort of a pet although I advised my seven year old son not to play with him, after all he was a wild animal. He slept on the porch with the other two dogs and made himself at home. Sadly there were lots of guys around who carried a rifle in the truck for coyotes and such, and I actually knew the guy who shot him about 500yds from the house. He felt really bad when I showed him the videos of me feeding and petting the fox.
 
Gray fox are naturally on the tame side. I used to have a female come to the front of the house every evening and "bark" (that cough-like bark) until my wife or I came to the door. When she saw us, she would then proceed to the cows' water trough and drink.
It was like she was asking permission.
 
Recently we had a pack of 5 coyotes in the area. The lady that lives across the street works mornings at a fast food joint. She brought me stale biscuits and food people left on their plates I fed the coyotes for a little more than 2 weeks. Then two of us got together and ambushed the coyotes with shotguns. We found 4 dead coyotes and I have little doubt the fifth coyote is wounded.

Coyotes are not game animals. Do what ever it takes to get them to show up at the same spot at the same time. Bait works better than anything. Table scraps make fine bait that a coyote cannot resist.
 
You should be real proud of that!

Now you can bait the rats, field mice & voles the yotes don't kill when they invade your home!

rc
 
I'm not worried about an abundance of mice due to killing a few coyotes. We have barn cats that do the job quite well. However, it did take quite a few "cat importations" before we actually had a big enough population the coyotes didn't wipe them out before getting "established". No dogs or cattle have been attacked on our ranch, but cats? They disappear frequently.
 
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