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Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by SharpDog, Jul 10, 2019.

  1. SharpDog

    SharpDog Member

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    Ok, I'm a Sig fanboy and I've pretty much memorized their catalog over the last 15 years (year by year).

    I was looking for justification to get a p365XL to replace my beloved 'Halfbreed' p229 with an Rx Legion slide and I noticed the listed weight of the p229 (all models) is now 34.4 oz. It was listed as 27.8 oz. for many years !!!

    Here's my Halfbreed, looks like she'll be around for a while longer :)

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  2. 1KPerDay

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    So what's it ACTUALLY weigh? ;)
     
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    Me too!:)
     
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    What’s the correct weight? Sounds more like being lazy and just putting the same weight regardless of the setup. I know Ruger has done this with revolver models before. When every barrel length in every caliber weighs the same you know someone got lazy and figured 1 number was good enough.
     
  5. SharpDog

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    It's not really about the correct weight, it's about the fact that they changed it after so many years. IMHO 7 oz. was not enough difference to sell their p365XL which is somewhat similar in other respects to the p229. A 14 oz difference makes it more appealing. I mean it was 27.8 oz forever, at least 10 years. Now that was true for several different configurations so not the correct weight. Just like the 34.4 oz figure is applied now to all those same configurations and also is not the correct weight. E.G. it's the same weight with or without the optic.
     
  6. reddog81

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    What do you mean it’s not about the weight? These are companies that sell 3 pound pieces of steel for $500 to $1,500. Their expertises is in the details. Many parts on a gun needs to be fit to within thousandths of an inch. It seems lazy to just round the weight to the nearest half pound and call it a day. If I tried to get away with that kind of shoddy workmanship my boss would slap me upside the head.
     
  7. jmr40

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    Until we know which listed weight is accurate it is hard to comment. Things like this aren't unusual. Picking up a set of postal scales to accurately weigh stuff a few years ago was eye opening. Virtually none of the firearms listed weights are right. Most are close, but manufacturers don't actually weigh every single model, barrel length and cartridge option. A bolt rifle chambered in 35 Whelen is going to weigh significantly less than a 25-06 even in the same model and barrel length.

    Sometimes manufacturers make changes to a model and the weight changes. There may be a lag between the time the changes are made and the correct weights show up online or in the catalogs. Savage did this a few years ago when they changed from plastic and aluminum bottom metal to steel. The new rifles were 1/4-1/2 lb heavier than previous models, but the wrong weights were listed until they updated their website a year later.

    I know that Sig changed the method of making slides a few years ago. Maybe both weights are accurate and the new guns are just heavier than the old ones. And almost 1/2 lb on a handgun is HUGE.
     
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    Me Three!!
     
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