Suggestions for 1917 enfield and carcanoand 1891 argy?

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A friend had these three ,belonged to his FIL, all bubba guns. His FIL is getting on, aparently he took them as trade on a loan to someone.

The Argy is a 1891, in fine shape except for being cut down, I will clean it up and keep it as a plinker. Has a nice williams peep on it. Came with a box of Norma ammo, I am a bit reluctant to use that in an 1891. (six rounds were gone from the box though, so maybe the rifle has been "proofed!)

The Eddystone 1917 has an original barrel, dark but with strong rifling. The rifle is in a sporter stock , and has had the receiver drilled in four locations (front back and left right on top of the receiver ring) for a scope. It looks like a poor job, the holes are not exact by any means. Also the rear receiver bridge is drilled for the scope mount, which is still there - some type of quick release cam affair- do not know why, as there are no irons on the gun.
This is not a gun I want to put much into, if it is safe to fire I will clean it up, use gun paint on it and keep it for a cheap 3006 truck gun.
Any ideas on that drilled receiver? Safe? (I do know about the Eddystone crack issue, apparently it is confined to the rebarreled guns.) The drill holes are what concern me.

The third is a carcano sporter. Dark bore, solid rifling in 7.35 carcano.Marked Terni, it was a Finnish rifle marked SA.
Almost impossible to get clips or ammo for, although I did get 24 boxes of original ammo, in clips, in the original unopened boxes. Extremely clean for having a 1939 headstamp. I checked a site that listed the same ammo for $39 a box. Yikes!
The bolt on this gun is straight, and lightly ground all over to remove rust. I have no idea if it is original or not.
Should I throw it in the river? The ammo is probably worth more than the gun here, although it has by far the best trigger out of the three.
Help me figure out what to do with these.
 
I wouldn't toss any of them. The Argentine is fine with that Norma ammo and equivalent reloads. A while back there was a bunch of Argentine 7.65 ball on the market, dated from the 1970's and non-corrosive even though it was dirty and looked old. The caliber is more than adequate for medium game.

The 1917 is probably OK if the holes are the normal #6 size. You might look for any sign of annealing with heat, but the 1917 receivers are not as hard as the M1903 and usually did not require annealing to drill them. Other wise, your intended use sounds good.

The Carcano is not a bad rifle, and today it is gaining collector interest. I would keep it as potential trading stock against the day you can get a couple of hundred in trade for it.

Jim
 
Sell the carcano on auction arms or gunbroker. It'll be worth a few bucks to somebody, even if it's just for parts.

I seldom see any shootable rifles go for less than $75.
 
Read the post about not bubba -izing a milsurp- yes, yes, YES- This is a bad idea. Man I have seen some real shames- beautiful argys and chlilean mausers all cut up- If they are a first class job, it is not to bad- but the bulk of the older ones seem to be a "get bubba the cheapest deer gun you can " type of saw and hack job. Oh ,well. I guess this is a case of 20/ 20 hindsight....
 
Dude, "Argy" is one of the absolute worst nicknames I've ever heard. It sounds like a Scottish Poodle breed or something horrid like that!
 
Just a quick hijack, but does anyone sell replacement barrels for the 1917? I have one that was a parade rifle. It is in good shape and chromed all over, but the barrel is corroded pretty good. 6" or 8" groups is all I could get with it. It was one of the last rack grades CMP had last fall.
 
The butcher job on the 1917 is unfortunate. My dad inherited one several years ago, and we took some trouble to find a mount that replaces the rear sight with no permanent damage. (All the sight pieces are in a box.) That rifle makes me look like a really good shot.

I'm sure someone makes new barrels for them, I would try Brownells first. Such a thing is not impossible to manufacture from scratch for anyone who makes barrels.
 
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