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Support Mounting for Stronger Assault-Weapons Ban / anti-gun SCUMBAG website!

You bet your AMMO that the Democrat Presidential candidates will be pushing the renewal of the AW Ban (or the more stronger one written by McCarthy) to make themselves look good!

Support Mounting for Stronger Assault-Weapons Ban
11/20/2003

Feature Story
by Dick Dahl

On Nov. 6, Democratic Presidential candidate John Kerry attacked rival Howard Dean on the Vermont governor's questionable history on gun control. Specifically, Kerry claimed that Dean's current position in support of continuing the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban stands at odds with positions he'd taken in opposition to the ban (as well as the Brady Law waiting period for gun purchasers) while he was a governor receiving top marks from the National Rifle Association.

Suddenly, the silence surrounding the issue of gun control in the Democratic presidential primary had ended -- and the ongoing effort to ban assault weapons enjoyed a jolt of attention, which backers of the ban think can only be a good thing. "I think that what these candidates are doing is elevating the issue," said Joe Sudbay, public policy director for the Violence Policy Center in Washington, D.C., "and that's exactly what we need."

The 1994 Assault Weapons Ban is scheduled to sunset next September. Without new legislation to extend that law -- or replace it with the stronger law that many people believe is needed -- gun makers will once again be free to sell a fearsome array of semi-automatic weaponry whose only purpose is to terrorize. Not that such guns aren't being sold now, as the Bushmaster XM15 that was used to strike fear in metropolitan Washington, D.C. last fall makes evident. The Bushmaster XM15 is a legal gun that was adopted in cosmetic ways to get around the law.

To critics of the ban, the Bushmaster provides a perfect example of why the law needs to be strengthened through enactment of the "Assault Weapons Ban and Law Enforcement Protection Act of 2003." That law, sponsored by Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) and Reps. Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY) and John Conyers (D-MI) would simply tighten up the definition of "assault weapon" and eliminate the many loopholes that weaken the current law.

A competing bill, sponsored by Sens. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) and Charles Schumer (D-NY), would continue the flawed law on the apparent premise that a weak law is better than no law. But plenty of organizations have stepped forward to say that they'd rather work for a stronger law.

Bryan Miller, director of CeaseFire PA, a Philadelphia coalition of organizations that are concerned about gun violence, recently attended a national meeting sponsored by the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence United With the Million Mom March and co-hosted by States United to Protect Gun Violence, and he came away struck by a sense of unity on the issue. "The state groups are unanimously, strongly supporting the Lautenberg and McCarthy-Conyers bills," he said. "We're all united behind the strong legislation because we're not satisfied with the way the current law has failed to do what it was intended to do."

In the wake of the 1994 law, many manufacturers turned to their stock of now banned weapons, made minor changes to satisfy the law, and then openly marketed these guns as "post-ban" firearms. The current law prohibits the manufacture of semiautomatic firearms with detachable magazines if they contain any two of five defined assault-weapon characteristics: a folding or telescoping stock, a pistol grip, a bayonet lug, a flash suppressor, or a grenade launcher.

In the case of the Bushmaster XM15, the gun qualified as a legal, detachable-magazine firearm because it includes only one feature from the list, a pistol grip. And even though the stock looks like it telescopes, it is rigid, suggesting that the manufacturer sought the look of an illegal assault weapon.

To Miller, this kind of cynical behavior by the gun industry is especially painful because his younger brother, an FBI agent, was killed in 1994 by a man using a gun called a Cobray MAC-10 that would be banned. "The company stopped making it when the ban came into place," Miller said. "They changed it cosmetically, brought it out again as the MAC 11, and they advertised it as, `The MAC is back.'"

In seeking to run out the clock and revert to the days when a gun maker could make an assault weapon without any governmental interference, the gun lobby has an interest in keeping the issue as quiet as possible. But at a time when politicians like to talk about their support of "gun rights," support of "assault weapons" is something they wouldn't so easily embrace. This is why Sudbay and others believe that "elevating the issue" makes the prospect of a sunset less likely, the prospect of a toughened ban greater.

Lending support to the idea that the ban should be strengthened was a recent poll by the Consumer Federation of America (CFA), which found that people favored the stronger ban more than continuation of the existing ban. The survey, conducted by Opinion Research Corporation International in early September, found that 62 percent of the more than 1,000 Americans surveyed said that they favored renewing the ban, including 47 percent who said they "strongly" favor renewal. The survey also found that 63 percent favored strengthening the ban by preventing the gun industry from manufacturing commercial models of military-style assault weapons.

Susan Peschin, CFA's Firearms Project director and author of a report based on the survey, said that one of the most surprising outcomes to her was the strong support for the ban from gun owners. "We found not only that a majority of gun owners support renewing the ban, but support measures to strengthen the ban," she said. "Also, we were pleasantly surprised to see that almost three-quarters of those who were polled supported President Bush encouraging Congress to renew the ban."

Bush has stated that he supports continuation of the ban, but he's said little else about it. His position, though apparently not steadfast, has thus raised questions of the degree to which his position may be straining his support from the National Rifle Association. Peschin, for one, believes that what's going on with Bush and the NRA on assault weapons is "a political maneuver." "I think there's an unstated agreement between the two that the NRA will fight hard to make sure that Congress never brings this up for a vote so that Bush never has to deal with signing it. So he gets the political capital from shrugging his shoulders and saying, `Well, I said I'd support it. Too bad it didn't come to my desk.'"

Gun-violence-prevention activists, meanwhile, are optimistic that they'll soon see the day when a bill -- preferably a strong bill -- makes it to the President's desk.

"Many of us actually feel very good about the direction things are going on assault weapons," said Miller. "We're acquiring more sponsors in both houses." (On Nov. 17, the McCarthy-Conyers bill in the House had 106 co-sponsors and the Lautenberg bill in the Senate had six.) "The interest, or buzz, in Washington is around the McCarthy-Conyers and Lautenber bills; not the other bill. We're very happy that more and more grassroots activists are getting involved in this. So we actually feel like we're acquiring some very positive momentum. We know it's a very hard road, but there's really a lot of enthusiasm out there."

Sudbay sees the same thing happening. "I think there's much more grassroots activity at the state level on this than anything I've seen in years."

This article is online at http://www.jointogether.org/z/0,2522,567686,00.html
 
Yeah, we gun owners are a slippery bunch. I pulled a good one on the state police on the way to work this morning. I drove 65 mph all the way to work so I could get around the speed limit! (by obeying it.)
 
We need to start some grassroots education about "assault weapons" NOW.

I picture a few Oleg Volt - style posters:

Poster #1:

(Picture of a kitchen knife) -- "Assault Weapon."

(Picture of a baseball bat) -- "Assault Weapon."

(Picture of an obviously hunting-style shotgun) -- "Assault Weapon."

(Picture of Remington 7400 w/ scope) -- "Assault Weapon."

"It's all a matter of definition."

Small print: "Gun-grabbers want to expand the 1994 ban against "Assault Weapons". Which "Assault Weapon" is next?"

Poster #2:

(Picture of an AR15 and an SAR1) -- "Single-shot, auto-loading rifles, used by law-abiding Americans for hunting, target shooting and home defense."

(Picture of a fully-auto M16 and AK47) -- "Fully Auto Assault Rifles."

Small print: "Those who want to take away our right to keep and bear arms want to confuse you into thinking that these weapons are all the same. The weapons on the left have been regulated against civilian ownership in the U.S. since a 1939(date?) law.

Gun-grabbers want to expand the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban to make the guns on the left illegal based of their 'looks'. Tell your Senators and Representatives this is ridiculous."
 
And even though the stock looks like it telescopes, it is rigid, suggesting that the manufacturer sought the look of an illegal assault weapon.

Because that's the important part, you know.
 
Kerry Backs Tough Assault Weapons Ban
11/24/2003
http://www.jointogether.org/gv/news/alerts/reader/0,2061,567766,00.html
Press Release
Coalition to Stop Gun Violence
1023 15th Street, N.W.
Washington, DC 20005
www.gunfree.org
Contact:
Blaine Rummel
Phone: 202-408-0061 x118
Senator delivers on promise to stand up to the NRA
Washington, DC - Senator John Kerry (D-MA) has co-sponsored S. 1431, a bill that will renew and strengthen the federal assault weapons ban. The action reinforces recent comments he made promising that his would not be the "candidacy of the NRA. We stand up against that."
"Senator Kerry clearly means what he says about standing up for gun safety and saving lives," said Joshua Horwitz, Executive Director of the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence. "We call on the remaining candidates to state their strong support for renewing and strengthening the assault weapons ban."
Senator Kerry joins Reps. Kucinich and Gephardt as the only Democratic presidential candidates co-sponsoring legislation that not only renews but also strengthens the federal assault weapons ban. Candidates Carol Moseley Braun and Al Sharpton also support a strengthened ban, according to their responses to CSGV's candidate survey. The current ban is set to expire September 13, 2004 unless President Bush and Congress act.
Why the Ban Needs To Be Strengthened
The 1994 ban outlaws specific models of military-style semiautomatic assault weapons. But in a willful attempt to violate the spirit of the law, the gun industry continues to manufacture "post-ban" assault weapons guns identical to those banned except for minor cosmetic changes. The Bushmaster XM15 used in last fall's sniper attacks, for example, is a "post-ban" version of the AR15 assault rifle, which is banned under current law.
S. 1431 and H.R. 2038, its House companion, will not only renew the ban, but also prevent the gun industry from manufacturing "post-ban" assault weapons such as the Bushmaster XM15.H.R. 2038 has 108 sponsors.
For more information on the candidates' positions on the gun violence prevention issue, visit www.CandidatesOnGuns.org.

Date of Release: November 24, 2003
 
Anybody have a read of what chance this piece of c*ap has of getting anywhere (referring to the post above)?:cuss:
 
Bryan Miller, director of CeaseFire PA, a Philadelphia coalition of organizations that are concerned about gun violence...

That's a lie. They're not even remotely concerned about violence. Their sole intent is to disarm every last law-abiding American citizen. If they were concerned about violence, they'd advocate disarming criminals.
 
Write your Senators, Representatives, etc. folks. Make it known that a new AWB will not be tolerated.
 
"Bryan Miller, director of CeaseFire PA, a Philadelphia coalition of organizations that are concerned about gun violence, recently attended a national meeting sponsored by the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence United With the Million Mom March and co-hosted by States United to Protect Gun Violence, and he came away struck by a sense of unity on the issue. "The state groups are unanimously, strongly supporting the Lautenberg and McCarthy-Conyers bills," he said. "We're all united behind the strong legislation because we're not satisfied with the way the current law has failed to do what it was intended to do."

Was Mr. Miller generous or kind enough to let us mere mortals in on exactly what the current law "was intended to do"? If he was, his efforts have escaped my notice.



"In the wake of the 1994 law, many manufacturers turned to their stock of now banned weapons, made minor changes to satisfy the law, and then openly marketed these guns as "post-ban" firearms. The current law prohibits the manufacture of semiautomatic firearms with detachable magazines if they contain any two of five defined assault-weapon characteristics: a folding or telescoping stock, a pistol grip, a bayonet lug, a flash suppressor, or a grenade launcher."

Anyone notice that the features mentioned are ALL cosmetic, there isn't anything even close to a functional consideration in the original legislation. One knows what an ASSAULT RIFLE is, it's a Selective Fire Weapon, chambered for an intermediate power cartridge. Other than allowing for considerations of "the flavor of the moment", what is this thing called an Assault Weapon anyhow?


"Lending support to the idea that the ban should be strengthened was a recent poll by the Consumer Federation of America (CFA), which found that people favored the stronger ban more than continuation of the existing ban. The survey, conducted by Opinion Research Corporation International in early September, found that 62 percent of the more than 1,000 Americans surveyed said that they favored renewing the ban, including 47 percent who said they "strongly" favor renewal. The survey also found that 63 percent favored strengthening the ban by preventing the gun industry from manufacturing commercial models of military-style assault weapons."

Re this CFA poll, exactly what was the question asked, not a paraphrase, or someones interpretastion thereof, but the exact words. With that information in hand, interested parties might note that he or she that gets to pose the question, as well as to "inbterpret" the answers, exercises a sigfnificant degree of control over the answers obtained and or published.

"Susan Peschin, CFA's Firearms Project director and author of a report based on the survey, said that one of the most surprising outcomes to her was the strong support for the ban from gun owners. "We found not only that a majority of gun owners support renewing the ban, but support measures to strengthen the ban," she said. "Also, we were pleasantly surprised to see that almost three-quarters of those who were polled supported President Bush encouraging Congress to renew the ban."

As to this Susan Peschin, sounds like she was prosecuting attorney, judge and jury, all rolled up into a single neat bundle. How nice for her side, however one is left wondering as to the following. What was the exact wording of the question(s). How many people were surveyed, and who were they. What factual information was included in this survey, for instance, were those surveyed told that these so-called "assault weapons" were almost never used by criminals, this according to police and FBI data? I suspect not, but them perhaps I'm merely suspicious.

I could really ride this horse into the ground, but push coming to shove, the following remains. The gun owners of this country have absolutely got to get off their proverbial duffs, and work at retaining their individual rights, because there "ain't nobody else out there that is going to". We need to get on our elected things, and stay on them until they realize that gun control, in general, is a looser and this assault weapons business is even worse.
 
Hmmmmmmm ???????

Kerry who is from Mass is badmouthing Dean because he did not push to advance anti gun measures while he was gov of Vermont. :banghead:

WHICH STATE HAS THE LOWER CRIME???? :banghead: :confused:

Vermont does!!!! Mass has gun laws out the wazoo & lots more crime than Vermont. If guns cause crime then Vermont should have the higher rate ......right???:confused:
 
Kerry who is from Mass is badmouthing Dean because he did not push to advance anti gun measures while he was gov of Vermont.

WHICH STATE HAS THE LOWER CRIME????

Vermont does!!!! Mass has gun laws out the wazoo & lots more crime than Vermont.

Don't you know that doesn't matter? If a state has lower violent crime and higher gun freedom, it's just luck. If a state has higher violent crime rates and lower gun freedom, it's because other states around it aren't as restrictive! :rolleyes:
 
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