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Suppressor Building Legal Question

Discussion in 'NFA Firearms and Accessories' started by hso, Oct 25, 2012.

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  1. hso

    hso Moderator Staff Member

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    Is it legal to have someone make the baffles if I'm going to do the paperwork get the stamp and build a suppressor?
     
  2. Rail Driver

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    As far as I'm aware, you have to be physically present during all stages of manufacture, and you have to maintain possession of the parts when they're not being worked on (after you get your stamp)
     
  3. MachIVshooter

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    That's an interesting question.

    I would think that as long as they weren't contracted to actually build the supressor, it's probably OK. Without a housing, the baffles are nothing more than oddly shaped funnels. I mean, you could do one of those online CAD programs and have most any small parts built and delivered without ever setting foot in a machine shop or actually talking to anyone.

    But.........I'm no NFA law expert, and I have my own little machine shop. If I were to build a supressor, I would do it myself, so this query had never occurred to me before.
     
  4. Bubbles

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    07/C2 needed to make baffles for someone else, and even if you have a silencer you can't have spare parts for it.
    http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/national-firearms-act-silencers.html#ffl-silencer-repair
    http://www.atf.gov/publications/download/p/atf-p-5320-8/atf-p-5320-8-chapter-7.pdf
    http://www.atf.gov/publications/download/p/atf-p-5320-8/atf-p-5320-8-chapter-2.pdf - page 16:
     
  5. Ranb

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    Without a housing, baffles are still silencer parts as long as they are intended for use in a silencer. This is what the law says.

    http://www.atf.gov/firearms/guides/importation-verification/firearms-verification-nfa-silencer.html

    If a person thinks they can partially machine parts that are intended for use with a silencer without a license or ATF form 1, they are on thin ice to say the least. While it is acceptable to help a licensee or form 1 maker with the machining, any person who is not authorized by the BATFE to make silencer parts better not be in control of them at all.

    Ranb
     
  6. Gato Montés

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    Not to derail the thread, but do these restrictions on who does the work carry over to SBR's and SBS's as well?
     
  7. Ranb

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    Merely owning parts that can be used to build an SBS or SBR is legal, as far as I know. This is federal law, some states ban parts solely intended for SBS/SBR. WA does with certain exceptions.

    As far as I know it is legal to convert a pistol to a rifle and back again without paying the $200 tax. But you can't convert a firearm that was originally a rifle to a pistol without paying the $200 tax.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2759762/posts The www.atf.gov website is down right now, so I am unable to post the 2011-4 ruling.

    Ranb
     
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    EDIT: Never mind, thanks for the info.
     
  9. Ranb

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    Since a 10/22 carbine barrel can also fit on a Striker pistol action, it would not be only an SBR part. Should be legal to have someone else do it for you.

    Ranb
     
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