when i applied for my permit in ny, my county required 4 references
from in county people that had known me for 5 years
i asked some guys at work, who i knew would have no hesitation to
give me a reference
one immediately told me NO, because about 20 years earlier, he
had had some problems with the law and had a record
one guy said YES, but later realized he couldnt for the same reason
problem was that i had already had put his name on the application,
so i had to go and get the application changed.....major pita
(pain in the ass)
eventually it all worked out and i got my permit....it took about 4 months,
since things move slowly here
but i was told by the permit clerk to keep an eye on my people
doing the recs because their slowness in filling out the recommendation
and their slowness to get it in the mail is one of the major reasons why
some applications take forever....(i had to bug one guy for a good long
while and he kept saying....oh yeah...i gotta get to that....it was a good
thing i kept bugging him or it would have taken even longer)
as far as leaving ny, as some have suggested, i have thought about it
my son in law to be lives in vermont....now THAT is a state to live in!!!!
but if all gun owners were to leave ny, imagine how much worse it would
become....many of us are politically active in our local groups and try
what we can to make things better, as seemingly impossible as it is,
sometimes....i feel it would be better to stay and agitate....
new york isnt as bad as many make it out to be....very few restrictions
on concealed carry....the usual ones....and upstate is usually pretty
friendly to gun owners....our bad rep has lots to do with the downstate
mentality, although those that have said that we are brainwashed from
the day we are born to "see guns as evil" are very correct...but we
are trying to correct that bad information
