Taking Daughter and Friend Shooting

[farscott]

This weekend my daughter's best friend stayed with us while her father was away on a business trip. Since the weekend was so unseasonably warm, I asked my daughter if her friend would like to try her hand at shooting a .22 rimfire. Now my daughter has really become the avid shooter (which makes me a very proud papa) since we got her a PURPLE Tactical Solutions upper for a 50th Anniversary Ruger Mark II I picked up for a song. So it did not take much for her friend to decide she wanted to shoot. So I packed my range bag with lots of .22 ammo, some fun targets, my magazine loader, and all of the ear and eye protection I could find. And we all, including my wife, went off for an afternoon of shooting.

Since her friend was a novice, I gently explained the safety rules while on our way to the local store to pick up a few extra pair of ear muffs and a few more fun targets. If the dealer would have stocked pink muffs, the girls would have cleaned the dealer out; however, red was the closest color. So each girl got a pair of red muffs as my daughter reminded me that I owed her a pair of pink ones. I figured I needed a few more sets of hearing protection anyway as I always seem to misplace the things.

Once we were at the range -- which is part of 22+ acres that we own -- I let my daughter explain the safety rules yet again and how the pistol functioned. I followed her explanation with one of my own and let my daughter demonstrate firing the pistol. The following picture is my daughter posing with the gun pointed downrange. The picture was taken on a cell phone, so the quality is not the best.



After a bit more instruction, my daughter's friend gave it a try. With such coaching, she got the hang of it and had a good time. The next picture is my daughter's friend with the pistol while between shots.



The next picture is their favorite target.



When my daughter's friend's father came to pick her up, the daughter asked for a gun of her own. That made my weekend.

The end result is that another child learned that guns are not evil and can be used to have a good time if one is careful.

 

[Curator]

Farscott,

It is great that you are teaching/shareing shooting sports with your daughter and her friend! Keep in mind that providing access to a firearm to someone under the age of 16 is a violation of Federal law unless you have permission from their parents. The only court-upheld permission is a notarised and dated letter of permission. Exceptions are made for Boy Scouts and some youth groups where the parents sign a statement of "loco-parentus" (sp)

I hope you don't think this is a wet blanket on your fun, but you need to watch your butt on this. Friend's mom or dad could cause you a bit of trouble if they suddenly don't approve!

 

[jakemccoy]

awesome

 

[ZeSpectre]

Well done, glad to see you teaching others.

Also, not knocking you at all since I don't know the details of your situation but I would also recommend that folks get written permission before teaching another persons child to shoot. (Just a general "CYA" kinda suggestion to others out there).

 

[TargetTerror]

Keep in mind that providing access to a firearm to someone under the age of 16 is a violation of Federal law unless you have permission from their parents. The only court-upheld permission is a notarised and dated letter of permission. Exceptions are made for Boy Scouts and some youth groups where the parents sign a statement of "loco-parentus" (sp)

What jurisdiction is that in?

 

[mekender]

nice... any chance you could pm me with a nice pic of that .22... i would love to see what one looks like up close with that upper on it

 

[jimbob86]

Happy Dance Time!

Nothing warms my heart more than Kids learning safe, responsible gun handling, and then demonstrating their skills!

The ultimate joy in my life is taking my kids hunting......

 

[jrfoxx]

Quote:
Keep in mind that providing access to a firearm to someone under the age of 16 is a violation of Federal law unless you have permission from their parents. The only court-upheld permission is a notarised and dated letter of permission. Exceptions are made for Boy Scouts and some youth groups where the parents sign a statement of "loco-parentus" (sp)

What jurisdiction is that in?

I'm curious/skeptical on this.Anyone got a cite for this? If true, I'd really like to know about it for sure for future referance to avoid possible problems, becuase if true, this means if I were to take my step-daugheter (or even just "provide access) by letting her handle one of mine unloaded while teachig safety), I need a signed,dated and notorized permission letter from my wife? If true, this is a complete load of......

 

[chris in va]

Personally, I don't know but I came across this on the Cornell University website.

[(v) , (w) Repealed. Pub. L. 103–322, title XI, § 110105(2), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2000.]
(x)
(1) It shall be unlawful for a person to sell, deliver, or otherwise transfer to a person who the transferor knows or has reasonable cause to believe is a juvenile—
(A) a handgun; or
(B) ammunition that is suitable for use only in a handgun.
(2) It shall be unlawful for any person who is a juvenile to knowingly possess—
(A) a handgun; or
(B) ammunition that is suitable for use only in a handgun.
(3) This subsection does not apply to—
(A) a temporary transfer of a handgun or ammunition to a juvenile or to the possession or use of a handgun or ammunition by a juvenile if the handgun and ammunition are possessed and used by the juvenile—
(i) in the course of employment, in the course of ranching or farming related to activities at the residence of the juvenile (or on property used for ranching or farming at which the juvenile, with the permission of the property owner or lessee, is performing activities related to the operation of the farm or ranch), target practice, hunting, or a course of instruction in the safe and lawful use of a handgun;
(ii) with the prior written consent of the juvenile’s parent or guardian who is not prohibited by Federal, State, or local law from possessing a firearm, except—
(I) during transportation by the juvenile of an unloaded handgun in a locked container directly from the place of transfer to a place at which an activity described in clause (i) is to take place and transportation by the juvenile of that handgun, unloaded and in a locked container, directly from the place at which such an activity took place to the transferor; or
(II) with respect to ranching or farming activities as described in clause (i), a juvenile may possess and use a handgun or ammunition with the prior written approval of the juvenile’s parent or legal guardian and at the direction of an adult who is not prohibited by Federal, State or local law from possessing a firearm;
(iii) the juvenile has the prior written consent in the juvenile’s possession at all times when a handgun is in the possession of the juvenile; and
(iv) in accordance with State and local law;
(B) a juvenile who is a member of the Armed Forces of the United States or the National Guard who possesses or is armed with a handgun in the line of duty;
(C) a transfer by inheritance of title (but not possession) of a handgun or ammunition to a juvenile; or
(D) the possession of a handgun or ammunition by a juvenile taken in defense of the juvenile or other persons against an intruder into the residence of the juvenile or a residence in which the juvenile is an invited guest.
(4) A handgun or ammunition, the possession of which is transferred to a juvenile in circumstances in which the transferor is not in violation of this subsection shall not be subject to permanent confiscation by the Government if its possession by the juvenile subsequently becomes unlawful because of the conduct of the juvenile, but shall be returned to the lawful owner when such handgun or ammunition is no longer required by the Government for the purposes of investigation or prosecution.
(5) For purposes of this subsection, the term “juvenile” means a person who is less than 18 years of age.
(6)
(A) In a prosecution of a violation of this subsection, the court shall require the presence of a juvenile defendant’s parent or legal guardian at all proceedings.
(B) The court may use the contempt power to enforce subparagraph (A).
(C) The court may excuse attendance of a parent or legal guardian of a juvenile defendant at a proceeding in a prosecution of a violation of this subsection for good cause shown.

 

[mekender]

yeah federal law does still have that silly "written permission" clause... and take note, that applies to your children too... so your daughter was in violation if she didnt have a note in her pocket

though its doubtful that it would ever be enforced, it is there

 

[langenc]

So what constitutes: selling, delivering or transfer. I guess (maybe?most likely not) I understand transfer but the rest??

 

[Darthbauer]

When I was little the ranges I went to never had a problem with someone that wasnt my parents taking me shooting. Just had to be someone that was old enough and knew what they were doing around guns.

 

[Dirtypacman]

Sounds like a great day all around - be proud for bringing a new shooter into the community.

 

[jlday70]

I can't tell you how proud I was when my 13 Year old daughter wanted to learn to shoot. She is a pretty good shot with my P95.

 

[farscott]

nice... any chance you could pm me with a nice pic of that .22... i would love to see what one looks like up close with that upper on it

Here's a few pictures from when it was new.