Taking some new people to the range

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Next week I am taking 2 people who have never shot a gun and one guy who has never shot a pistol to the local indoor range. I am going and my giirlfriend is who has shot with me a half dozen times or so.

We are going in the morning so the range should be pretty calm. The question is should I get 1 lane so I can monitor everyone CLOSELY or get 2 lanes so 2 people can shoot at a time after everyone has the safety spill and a once over on how everything works? I am always torn over 1 lane or 2 but this is the first time I'll have 4 people with me.
 
Double up on the hearing protection for them. Ear plugs and ear muffs. In case there is somebody shooting thier bug guns.

If you get two lanes that means you are the safety for both of them. No shootin' for you other then demo.

Start small also. .22s and work up.
 
I'd recommend a single lane and keeping no more than one gun on the table at a time. You'll be able to devote your full attention to a single shooter, and other shooters can learn from his or her experience and/or mistakes.

There's no such thing as too safe with firearms.
 
I agree with the one-lane theory. Safety, along with your full attention to the new shooters should be a top priority.

I also agree with the one-gun-at-a-time idea.

At least for their first time out.

-38SnubFan
 
One lane is boredom. Two lanes is fun.
It's as simple as that.

If you are going out with people who are prepared to respect firearms, and who have basic manners, there will be absolutely no problem in monitoring 2 shooters.

Fud
 
All the indoor ranges I've been to don't allow more than 2-3 people to use a single lane. Obviously you're in a better position to know the rules where you're going. It seems to me, however, that there's something to be said for dispersing your group a bit. Having 4 people crowded around 1 booth could be a bit much.
 
Old Fud, if I read correctly, there will be two absolutely new shooter, 1 long gun experiences but handgun inexperienced shooter, and 1 novice (girlfriend). Having been in this position before, IMO, I think one lane with one person shooting at one time for the experienced teacher to supervise would be the best. When I had a few (novice) people at the range with me I have found myself addressing problems with one shooter while some of the others were shooting. Luckily, no problems occurred during the trip but as I look back on it, I should have had just one person shoot at a time. As I addressed problems, I totally lost track for short periods of time of what the other shooter were doing. This made (and makes) me uncomfortable. I should have been in control at all times as it was my resposibility (I was the one who invited) for their safety.

Nothing's worse for the supervisor than to have someone under his charge have a serious incident because he wasn't paying attention or his attention was diverted.

Safety first. You can only watch one person at a time. Allow only one person to shoot until you ar confident of their safety habits. One trip to the range isn't enough to brand the safety mantra into newbie brains, IMO.
 
Two lanes is fine unless the people are so stupid they shouldn't be shooting anyway. It's not that hard to keep a gun pointed downrange. I think it'd be more dangerous to have so many people crowding around 1 booth.

Best solution would be to get two lanes and bring another friend who has experience, and you can each monitor 1 lane.
 
Your decision should depend in great part upon the skill level of not only the shooters but of your skill level as an instructor. I have supervised up to five shooters at a time. They all, at the least, had the basics down and, I had lodes (or loads depending on how you want to look at it) of experience and years of training. When my shooters shot tactically it would be one on one. When they shot anything outside of the normal the most would be two (shooters) to one (instructor). Problem shooters or brand new shooters would never be more than two (shooters) to one (instructor) if I was the only instructor present.

Of course the range set up also has something to contribute to how many shooters you can effectively manage. If this is an indoor range with actual divided shooting lanes (at least dividers back on the firing line) this could mean 1 on 1 only. This would be because if you get in too close to shooter on point A, you will no longer be able to glance over and see shooter on Point B. If you are able to stand close enough to either shooter to give up close instruction from over the shoulder or by the side with still being able to glance up, or over, and see the other shooter then you are probably OK safety wise. This, of course, as long as you are qualified enough as an instructor. Note by qualified I mean that you at least have quite some time instructing other shooters while doing it right and, while doing it safely. Of course firearms instructor certification (NRA, military, police) would probably be much better than just self trained or trained by a shooting pal.

If you have any doubts at, all no matter how small, then 1 on 1 is best until at least the point where each shooter demonstrates a fairly good proficiency with handling firearms in a safe manner both while shooting and at all other times.

By the way, never have other people crowded around the shooter and yourself while training. Other shooters must wait behind the firing line, and must keep quiet or at least not interfere with the instructor and the shooter(s) who are actually on the firing line. Good range discipline is important to prevent distractions that can contribute to accidents.

Also, never assume that anyone who is new to firearms will have enough firearms sense to handle them in a safe manner such as by always pointing the in a safe direction, etc. To do so could be fatal. That would ruin all of the fun! Safety at the forefront allows for many years of shooting fun down the road. Please don't forsake range safety just for the sake of having fun. Instead, make the safety lessons part of the fun.

All the best,
Glenn B
 
I would start out one on one until I was confident that 2 shooters could be managed at one time. This will depend on how they do in the one on one phase. I am guessing that the rifle shooter will be able to shoot on their own relatively quick.

As others have stated this will be a non-shooting day for you, other than demo. Keep in mind they are your guests at the range. You are responsible for their safety.

Have fun, be safe. This is the best way to win people over to the RKBA cause.
 
Thanks for the suggestions guys.

Here is a bit more information I probably should have included in the first part.

The range is divided. Only one shooter at a time in the lane except for during instructions. Everyone else will be back a few feet.

The group should be pretty calm. All seniors in college. 2 females, 1 international student.

The main reason I am considering a second lane is time. My friend's girlfriend is the main reason we are going but she has to be at work at 2pm. Also I am leaving for the summer so they won't be able to shoot with me again until August.

Thanks
 
Two lanes is fine unless the people are so stupid they shouldn't be shooting anyway.

Remember, these people have never shot a gun before. When doing something new, everyone is bound to mess up sometime.

My suggestion is to get one lane. If you want two, put the guy with shooting experience on the second, but keep the newbies in the first.

And do explain everything, with your full attention devoted to the person shooting, not the next person up. The first time I took two new people shooting, I was helping the second load up the magazine, when the guy with the gun asked where the safety was. Not thinking, I told him right by your thumb. The mag release is also right by the thumb, and my brand new mag took a mud bath :eek:

Just don't assume they know anything.
 
Have the girlfriend drive separate, have her shoot first, with you instructing, and the others watching or listening as best they can. Before you even go, have all of them learn and repeat back to you the four rules. Use one lane. When she leaves, you can instruct the other two in the basics with them behind the line, you in the booth. Then allow them to shoot one at a time. Have a reliable .22 auto or revolver to start them with, and if they ask, a 9mm or such to try after they are comfortable with shooting.
I wish I'd have had such luxuries when I had to teach basic pistol to aviators who'd never fired a handgun before permanent party. Teaching them with .38's while they were supposed to be qualifying made it a challenge. The M9's were easier to fire, when they'd remember to release the slide, or the safety, etc. :p
 
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