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Tales of the stick.

Discussion in 'Non-Firearm Weapons' started by Carl Levitian, Jul 7, 2008.

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  1. Fred Fuller

    Fred Fuller Moderator Emeritus

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    I see Cold Steel makes an injection-molded faux blackthorn stick, right down to to the wood-tone root ball and molded-in 'thorn stubs.' Anyone have any experience with that version vs. the real thing as far as weight and balance is concerned?

    lpl/nc
     
  2. TimboKhan

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    I would be interested in hearing reviews about that CS product too. I suspect that it is probably a pretty good product, but I don't know that it has any particular advantage in price or utility over a blackthorn from lollysmiths.
     
  3. Carl Levitian

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    Somebody on another forum bought one of the cold steel fake blackthorns. It came apart durring traing, apparantly the head is a separate moulded on part, and breaks off. :what:

    There's nothin like the real one.
     
  4. Dirty Bob

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    Nothing like a good cane or walking stick. Glad you're OK Carl. Yes, they might have won, but it would have been "expensive." You raised the price of messing with you past what they were willing to pay!

    Anyone have experience with this little guy?
    http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=961059

    I looked at one at the gun store, and it felt pretty solid. The bottom has a sharp point, to go with its intended use, but I'd cut that off and add a crutch tip. It's a little "high tech," but I'm a geek anyway!

    Regards,
    Dirty Bob
     
  5. Carl Levitian

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    Sometimes Bob, raising the price makes a difference.

    I think of the warthog.

    The better half and I watch alot of the animal planet nature shows. Love them. They had some interesting film of a warthog getting bushwacked by a lioness. There he was grazing about, unaware that a large lioness was stalking him. When she made her move it was too late to run, so he lowered his head and charged right into her. Surprisingly, there was a hell of a fight for a few minutes. He got under her front end and was trying to disembowel her with his tusks, while she was hanging on for dear life trying to get a hold of his neck in the back. All the while the warthog was pushing the lioness back into this big thorn bush, and every time the lioness would get her back feet on the ground to push back, the hog would gouge her in the underside.

    It was a hell of a real fight. Eventually the lioness got on top and killed the warthog, but then she was laying there exausted, panting, with some bloody fur on her cheast and belly, too d--m tired to eat. That warthog gave a good leason. Maybe next time I wonder if that lioness sees a warthog, she just may say the hell with it, just not that hungry. Ain't worth it, and go find a little Thomsons gazzel or something.

    I feel like if we all just stop being victims, and act more like a warthog, there would be alot less crime. Sure, as an "older" person they can get my wallet and watch. But that will be AFTER the fight. I'm sure as all heck not going to make it easy for them!

    The warthog has his tusks, I have my knarley old blackthorn stick. If the preditor is looking me over, I make no bones about choking up on my stick and looking him right in the eye, and let him know I'm ready if they are.

    Warthogs are great inspiration.
     
  6. shevrock

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    Cool story carl.

    bob, read this
     
  7. Dirty Bob

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    shevrock said:
    That's Zytel, isn't it? Fiberglass-reinforced nylon is pretty tough stuff, in my experience. I'm pretty sure that's the material used in several of my folding knife handles (Spydie Delica, etc.).

    Regards,
    Dirty Bob
     
  8. Eleven Mike

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    Carl, I have read your past two Tales of the Stick, and there is something I feel I have to say. I hope you are very proud of yourself.

    I am thinking especially of the young man who attacked you, which you beat senseless, after putting down his vicious dog with one smack of your walking stick. Now, Carl, what is that poor young man supposed to do without his street cred? How will he swagger around like a tough guy, after everyone knows he can't even handle a disabled old man, even when armed with a pit bull?

    And what about these men you mentioned in the current thread? THREE of them. And you dismissed them with nothing more than a stick and a mean face. How will they hold their heads up, when they go home to their families after a long, back-breaking night of assault and petty theft?

    I hope you will ponder what I have said.
     
  9. ArfinGreebly

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    Warning

    Sign

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  10. conw

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    I believe what you did is known as "Puttin' on the Ritz"

    Come, let's blend where Rockefellers carry sticks or umbrellas in their mitts...
     
  11. Eleven Mike

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    [FrankenSTEEN's Monster voice] PUTTIN' ON THE RIIIIIIIIIIITZ!!!!


    You all might get that one. Or you might not.
     
  12. alaskanativeson

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    11 Mike, shouldn't that be FrOnkenSTEEN's monster? :D

    For what my opinion is worth, I hate the idea of fake looking things. I won't buy a car if it has woodgrain panel in it, or if I do that'll be the first thing to be ripped out. If I have to spray paint it black I won't have fake wood in my car. I refuse to have plastic houseplants and I hate silk flowers. My wife had a silk flower arrangement in her wedding bouquet. She liked it because she can still hold it and it looks like it did back then. Myself, I was the only one in the wedding party that had a real flower on that day. It's long since wilted and likely has been thrown away but I couldn't bring myself to wear a fake flower.

    By that same token, I couldn't bring myself to carry an imitation blackthorn stick. Lynn Thompson has done a lot of things that has pissed me off over the years but this one has to be one of the worst.
     
  13. Tirod

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    After I broke my leg - compound fracture and a 18" ti rod inserted - I hobbled around on a walker for weeks. I guess I'm still too young to tolerate the things and moved to a cane as soon as I could tolerate the pressure. Actually, a little too soon, had to give it another week.

    Nothing better to do, I surfed the net and downloaded all sorts of cane fighting instructions, and found Cold Steel makes a 14 wrap fiberglass cane with stainless knob head. Got it. It's been 5 years, they are still available.

    I don't think a human can break one, and I'm sure I don't want to try - but I'm willing to let others who volunteer the opportunity to block for it and see how it works. :D

    You can take them just about everywhere. They are a great backup when a CCW can't go in with you.

    Able bodied or not, the more you have it, the less people notice it.
     
  14. Brian Dale

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    There's a nugget of wisdom. Thank you!
     
  15. the lone gunman

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    I bought an Eastman Shooting monopod from Cabelas. Extends to something like 62 inches. I keep it short for use as a cane. Very Sturdy, would make a good weapon if need be.
     
  16. Jason_G

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    Yep, FrOnkenSTEEN :D

    Jason
     
  17. rantingredneck

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    I have a length of rattan that I've used off and on for the last 10 years or so as a walking stick when walking the neighborhood or when off in the hinterlands.

    Not particularly heavy but hard and sturdy and light enough to develop some speed behind it fast.
     
  18. Smokey Joe

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    Here's to cranky, grouchy old men!!

    Who was it said "Never pick a fight with an old man--If he can't beat you he'll just kill you."????

    And Carl Levitian--Heck of a good story abt the warthog. If the lion wants to eat, and you are dinner, make it the most expensive dinner of that lion's life!

    As to street punks: Like most predators, including the human variety, they want easy prey. You don't necessarily have to be able to beat them to be left alone, just make it clear that taking your wallet/life/car keys won't be easy.
     
  19. Deltaboy1984

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    A Thanksgiving Month bump. Carl you ought to write a book!
     
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