Diesel man
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My taurus 66 has small side to side cylinder shake and a tiny bit of end shake is there anything I have to worry about?
Taurus 66 problem
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Probably not.
MCgunner
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Wouldn't worry about it unless the end shake gets too much.
Glockman17366
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Probably no problems...does it spit lead?
If it makes you feel better, take it to a gunsmith for a check out.
If it makes you feel better, take it to a gunsmith for a check out.
Confederate
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Unfortunately, this is common with Taurus 66s. Eventually it will worsen over time. It did with every Taurus 66 I ever owned. Part of the problem is sloppy tolerances and part frame size. If you can stick mostly with .38s, it should last nigh on forever. If you shoot .357s a lot, you'll likely have problems.
It's like having someone stand and put out his hand. If you put your fist on his hand and push, not much will happen; however, if you pull back about six inches and hit his hand, he'll feel more of the impact. The blast of the powerful .357 round will use the play in a medium frame revolver against it, eventually increasing the play and battering the gun until it goes out of time.
That said, it's not unusual to have some play in a cylinder and unless you've seen many other guns it's difficult to judge what's excessive. The 66 is not a terribly robust gun. It's based on the K-frame Smiths, but it isn't made as well, so it's even more of a problem. The only 66 that was tight was one that I bought, but when I took it to the range, the bullets would barely stay on the paper. I dropped six .357 bullets, one into each chamber, and all six plunked out the other end (didn't even slow down). I ended up giving it to my girlfriend for defense, for which it was more than adequate.
Try taking the gun into a gun store sometime and asking someone. Or, you can just ask to see a few .357s and see if yours is much different.
It's like having someone stand and put out his hand. If you put your fist on his hand and push, not much will happen; however, if you pull back about six inches and hit his hand, he'll feel more of the impact. The blast of the powerful .357 round will use the play in a medium frame revolver against it, eventually increasing the play and battering the gun until it goes out of time.
That said, it's not unusual to have some play in a cylinder and unless you've seen many other guns it's difficult to judge what's excessive. The 66 is not a terribly robust gun. It's based on the K-frame Smiths, but it isn't made as well, so it's even more of a problem. The only 66 that was tight was one that I bought, but when I took it to the range, the bullets would barely stay on the paper. I dropped six .357 bullets, one into each chamber, and all six plunked out the other end (didn't even slow down). I ended up giving it to my girlfriend for defense, for which it was more than adequate.
Try taking the gun into a gun store sometime and asking someone. Or, you can just ask to see a few .357s and see if yours is much different.
Diesel man
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yes I check it at full lock up it shakes side to side a little.
I will get a Smith and wesson revolver very soon maybe a L frame.
I will get a Smith and wesson revolver very soon maybe a L frame.
MCgunner
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I've got 2 66s. One of 'em's an old war horse, carried a lot anyway, and I suspect shot a lot. I just got it not long ago. It's been fired enough that the pachmayr grip is worn on the back side where it recoils into the hand, the little rubber checkering worn down. Yet, the gun is quite tight, hardly any end shake and very little slop anyways else, less than .001" of end shake, barely noticable. I had a lot more looseness in a Security Six I traded after 10 years of shooting.
My 4" 66 hasn't been fired much, is a newer gun with the newer transfer bar lock up. It's like new, no end shake, very little wear. I shoot mostly 38s in the guns, but do fire hot .357s out of 'em on occasion. I consider 'em tougher than any J frame in .357 and they seem to be as well built as the M19 I had which was fairly tight when I traded it, though the round count with magnums was kept low on that one, too, in difference to the K frame.
L frames and GP100s are a lot stronger and can sustain an large round count of heavy .357 loads much better than the K frames, Smith or Taurus. The K size guns are lighter, easier to carry, and I prefer them, but they're not as strong and able to hold up to heavy diets of heavy loads. They are not, however, the fragile POSs some make 'em out to be, my older 3" gun is evidence of that! While the Taurus might be less strong than a M19, I fail to see it. And, while everyone likes to talk about how strong the Security Six was, I didn't really see that either. I put a lot of heavy loads through mine and it was pretty loose when I traded it. The GP100's design is an improvement in strength, but the old Security Six was a lot easier to carry and I liked the gun for its size. If I'm going to go blast away with a lot of heavy loads, I'll take my Blackhawk. The Blackhawk can take it! I have the Taurus for lots of carry and not much magnum shooting. I'll practice with my 158 grain load using 5 grains of Unique. It gives a bit more of a bang than wadcutters without being tough on the gun.
End shake can be repaired rather cheaply with shims to take out the slack. If the shake starts to get out of hand, repair it before it gets too bad. The more end shake a gun has, the faster it will wear.
My 4" 66 hasn't been fired much, is a newer gun with the newer transfer bar lock up. It's like new, no end shake, very little wear. I shoot mostly 38s in the guns, but do fire hot .357s out of 'em on occasion. I consider 'em tougher than any J frame in .357 and they seem to be as well built as the M19 I had which was fairly tight when I traded it, though the round count with magnums was kept low on that one, too, in difference to the K frame.
L frames and GP100s are a lot stronger and can sustain an large round count of heavy .357 loads much better than the K frames, Smith or Taurus. The K size guns are lighter, easier to carry, and I prefer them, but they're not as strong and able to hold up to heavy diets of heavy loads. They are not, however, the fragile POSs some make 'em out to be, my older 3" gun is evidence of that! While the Taurus might be less strong than a M19, I fail to see it. And, while everyone likes to talk about how strong the Security Six was, I didn't really see that either. I put a lot of heavy loads through mine and it was pretty loose when I traded it. The GP100's design is an improvement in strength, but the old Security Six was a lot easier to carry and I liked the gun for its size. If I'm going to go blast away with a lot of heavy loads, I'll take my Blackhawk. The Blackhawk can take it! I have the Taurus for lots of carry and not much magnum shooting. I'll practice with my 158 grain load using 5 grains of Unique. It gives a bit more of a bang than wadcutters without being tough on the gun.
End shake can be repaired rather cheaply with shims to take out the slack. If the shake starts to get out of hand, repair it before it gets too bad. The more end shake a gun has, the faster it will wear.
Diesel man
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Is remington 125 grain golden saber hollow point .357 magnum hot load?
And is magtech 158 sjsp .357 hot load?
I do have magtech 95 grain .38 special hollow points and 158 grain sellier and belliot FMJ 38 special.
And is magtech 158 sjsp .357 hot load?
I do have magtech 95 grain .38 special hollow points and 158 grain sellier and belliot FMJ 38 special.
MCgunner
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The Remington 125 grain is hot for a factory load, but I load and shoot hotter, in the Buffalo Bore range of hot. I'm not familiar with the Magtech load. My 158 grain load is leaving a 3" barrel about 1200 fps. My 125 grain load is leaving a 3" barrel about 1365 fps, probably about what the Remington does from a 4" gun.
Diesel man
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Thank you Mcgunner I will shoot .38 special more often than .357 magnum anyways.
Have a merry christmas and happy new year for you and everyone here.
Have a merry christmas and happy new year for you and everyone here.
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