Taurus 85 SS2 better than S&W Equivalent (637)??

[GWARGHOUL]

I found a used, stainless Taurus 85CH with the wood banana grips for $175.00, at the LGS, last week. It has a very smooth trigger, just like its twin. They wanted $225 for it, but I pointed out that the cylinder felt rough when turned.
All it needed was a cleaning & a drop of oil.

Nice score.. whats the CH? Is that blued Stainless or something, or something to do with the hammer?

Mine is a 85SS2.. the uh.. stainless stainless.. hehe

(the reason I point this out is, the UL's look stainless, and have stainless cylinders, or at least some do, and I saw a blued SIG semi-auto with the slide marked "stainless".)

 

[skt239]

I owned 4 Taurus revolvers, none were 85's but all were snubs. I currently carry a 637 and I much prefer it to the Taurus's I owned. The hammer on my 637 cracked early on and was repaired by S&W, free of charge. All for of my Taurus had problems, from serious to minor.

Nothing about my 637 feels "cheap", in fact it's quite the opposite. My Taurus revolvers on the other hand all had problems with cylinder latches and ejection rods would normally shot themselves loose.

The 637 is my EDC so I mainly shoot what I carry, +P loads. After a few thousand rounds I've seen no abnormal wear or had any problems with parts coming loose. FWIW, my Taurus revolver were purchased almost ten years ago and like I said, none were 85's.

 

[BBQLS1]

Any of those have a lifetime warranty? I'm kinda scared by the whole "tuner" nature of the 1911, honestly. The Taurus has a lot of bells and whistles.. and the ones I have handled (not shot), felt better than the Ruger at least.

Springfield and Ruger have much better customer service records than Taurus.

Springfield has a lifetime warranty to the original purchaser.

Ruger will fix just about anything that breaks that shouldn't have even though they have no warranty.

Springfield is an American Owned Company

Ruger is an American Company and the whole gun is made in the US.

The Taurus will have terrible resale value where you can just about get what you paid for the Ruger or Springfield if it's in great condition.

Springfield offers all the Bells and Whistles that Taurus offers, Ruger does too with the exception of a light rail (which I usually wouldn't want on a 1911). Oh, I guess you can get gold plated parts on the Taurus which you can't on the others. The Taurus might be about $100 cheaper though.

I have never seen a Taurus that was finished even close to as well as a Springfield and definitely not the Ruger.




I own a few Taurus handguns and have owned several more. All were revlovers and I never had an issue other than the loosening of an ejector rod that I didn't tighten well enough. I think the 1911s and PT92s are decent guns, but the 1911 just isn't a good value IMO. If it were priced like a RIA, it would be.

 

[Jaymo]

CH stands for, Concealed Hammer. It's the version that had no hammer spur and the hammer was flush with the rear of the frame.

 

[GWARGHOUL]

Springfield is an American Owned Company

I wonder who makes their frames in Brazil.

My Taurus revolvers on the other hand all had problems with cylinder latches and ejection rods would normally shot themselves loose.

Can someone tell me how to check and tighten these? I'm a bit weak on my revolver anatomy.

 

[BBQLS1]

I wonder who makes their frames in Brazil.

It usually says it on the frame: IMBEL with Springfield Armory as the importer. Also, some of the guns are actually built in the US, but IMBEL frames are used. These are usually NM prefix in the serial number. The higher end models (IE Professional, Custom Carry) are done in the US by skilled gunsmiths again on the IMBEL frame.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMBEL

 

[GWARGHOUL]

Good info, BBQ.

From what I have seen.. like range reports, and there was a fella that posted on here that worked at a rental range..

The Taurus was absolutely a solid gun. I think he replaced a MIM slide stop with a aftermarket one, but other than that..

I think the 1911s and PT92s are decent guns, but the 1911 just isn't a good value IMO. If it were priced like a RIA, it would be.

Seems like an excellent value. Its not a lot more expensive than the RIA, and cheaper than the Ruger, and the Springfield.

If you look, you can find a PT1911 in some form or another for around $500 and some change. I should have jumped on those when Bud's had them.

But I will take a closer look at a Springfield, when the 1911 day comes. I'm not sure when that will be, though.

 

[BBQLS1]

Seems like an excellent value. Its not a lot more expensive than the RIA, and cheaper than the Ruger, and the Springfield.

If you look, you can find a PT1911 in some form or another for around $500 and some change. I should have jumped on those when Bud's had them.

But I will take a closer look at a Springfield, when the 1911 day comes. I'm not sure when that will be, though.

Pricewise Taurus sits between SA/Ruger and Rock Island. The difference is how fast and how much you can sell the SA/Ruger/Rock Island vs. the Taurus. The better value is in the other guns IMO.

 

[Guillermo]

Springfield and Ruger have much better customer service records than Taurus.

Please be so kind as to provide where you acquired this information

Thank you

 

[dawei]

Yes please as Ruger® offers NO WARRANTY (as stated in the manual) with their firearms.

 

[BBQLS1]

It anecdoteal. Go look for all of the customer service threads on Ruger, Springfield and Taurus. Ruger and Springfield will be way in the lead.

As far as Ruger's lack of warranty, it is true. Ruger has no written warranty. Ruger still stands behind their product. They have often fixed many a gun that failed provided it wasn't wore out from normal use or obviously abused. Got a problem with your Ruger that was Ruger's fault? Give them a call.

 

[BSA1]

I owned 4 Taurus revolvers, none were 85's but all were snubs. I currently carry a 637 and I much prefer it to the Taurus's I owned. The hammer on my 637 cracked early on and was repaired by S&W, free of charge. All for of my Taurus had problems, from serious to minor.

A cracked hammer is about as major of a problem a gun can have. Why are you giving S&W a pass?

 

[buck460XVR]

Folks should be happy with their firearms, if not, they should dump them and move on. Folks need to be confident with the reliability of their carry weapon, if not, they need to find something different. That said, folks do not need to be chastised for their choices when they differ, nor should one really feel the need to pound their chest about their choice. IMHO, Doing either or both is just a sign of one's insecurity about their own choice. Guns are just a tool. What one accomplishes with said tool is up to the one using it. Many times the skill and methods used has a greater influence on the outcome than the tool itself.

 

[Guillermo]

The hammer on my 637 cracked early on and was repaired by S&W, free of charge.

It HAD to be a forged part because MIM is not brittle.