Taurus Millenium 9mm's any good?

[yongxingfreesty]

Taurus Millenium 9mm's any good?

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Anybody ever shoot a millenium 9mm ? I ve heard that the slide cracks and i've heard some good stuff as well. Please give me your advice on this gun. Thanks bye

 

[Yardstick]

I read a lot about them before I bought a Millenium Pro 9mm last week. The search will turn up a lot of results. The frame cracking problem happened with the earlier non-Pro models, but seems to be fixed on the new Pro models. I put about 200 rounds through mine this weekend with only one minor hiccup. I caught a spent shell casing between the slide and barrel hood. Other than that there were no failures of any kind. The trigger was the hardest thing to get used to, but once I had that down I was making 3" groups off-hand at 10 yards. I'm happy with that for such a small gun.

 

[TC-TX]

I was looking at them...

I was looking at them and got an education in how they are a major pain to field strip for cleaning ... Not my idea for a user friendly auto...

 

[TimboKhan]

I have a 24/7 in 9mm, which from a price standpoint is about the same as a mil-pro, and they ARE a pain in the A to take down, but I have been very, very please with my 24/7 so far. I don't know if take down is necessarily my benchmark for how much I like a pistol or not, and overall I am a big Taurus fan in general, but they are a pain to take down.

 

[SONICMASD]

I dont know how anyone can complain about field stripping a millenium or 24/7!!!!!!!!???

SLIDE BACK
PIN OUT
SLIDE OFF
SPRING OUT
BARREL OUT

WOW THAT WAS HARD!

I can do it in 24 seconds blindfolded! and reassemble in 45 seconds. So i think you all just need a little practice. The Taurus line is amazing and i highly recommend them to anyone.

 

[hkmp5g17]

Not bad amigo but I can dissassemle a Glock in under 5 seconds(if I try) and my Sigs Hipowers and several others in a few more.

I can also hit coke cans blindfolded though only with the barrel touching the can....... :banghead:

Focus young Jedi!


The field stripping part was meant seriously.

 

[Logistar]

I have heard that they are hard to field strip. However, I own one and find it very easy to field strip. There is one small trick (on mine anyway). When I reassemble it I push down on the barrel when I pull the slide back to put the pin in.

My Millenium is VERY accurate for it's size and conceals easily. I have been trying for years now to replace it with something better. Problem is... I haven't found anything I like better and I HAVE tried.

Why did I want to replace it in the first place? I read about problems other had with pins shearing. Mine has been fine though. It has been my main carry gun for years. If anyone can recommend another 9mm (or .45) that conceals as well, fits my hand as well, and shoots as well... I'll buy it!

YMMV

 

[TC-TX]

I will Recheck My Info Source

Thanks for the headsup SONICMASD - I will recheck my information source and SEE for myself...

To Logistar - I a Very Fond of my Kel-Tec P11 -

I am not suggesting it is better than the Millenium (as I do not know) but I can attest that it is a Great CC Weapon that conceals very well, Fits my hand well, Never a FTF or malfunction and shoots an Accurate grouping for the distances it is designed for. And - of course - you can not beat the price.

 

[Kurush]

You guys are spoiled. If 24 seconds is a major pain to field strip, I'd hate to hear how you'd describe CZ52 barrel removal.

 

[MrTuffPaws]

I was looking at them and got an education in how they are a major pain to field strip for cleaning ... Not my idea for a user friendly auto...

What is it with field stripping being a measure of a gun's worth? If you are too lazy to pop out a pin, then you have just lost out on some incredible guns.


As for the OP, I would only go for the millennium PRO models. The old millenniums seemed to have a lousy track record. The new ones are supposedly top notch. In fact, I am in the market for a PT145SSP myself. That gun is just perfect for my hand and my pocket.

Do a Google search for "Taurus Forum" and check out their reviews.

 

[TC-TX]

What is it with field stripping being a measure of a gun's worth?

MrTuffPaws - to me - IMHO - it is not about measuring a gun's worth or about being lazy.. It is more about being fully aware of a weapon's design - to include advantages and shortcomings - prior to acquisiton and/or purchase.

I try to look at certain design characteristics from a worse case scenario. Some things are not so inportant - other things definately are. In the trenches - on a battlefield or otherwise - it is, IMHO, a big disadvantage to carry a weapon that is difficult to strip and/or clean (or one that requires special or external tools) in the heat of a mess.

This is clearly not the Only Criteria for Selection, but it Is one of some inportance to me... IMHO...

 

[TimboKhan]

Sure I can take it down fast, but how fast can you get it back together? I can do my P90, blindfolded, in 30 seconds total both ways (and in fact practiced doing so blindfolded, for reasons that aren't clear even to me), and I can do my Taurus PT99 in about 15 seconds, both ways. Don't get me wrong, I flat out love Taurus pistols, and I recommend them to everyone, defend them frequently on THR, and think they generally are as good or better than any pistols out there, but "easy to take down" is not an argument thats gonna hold water with me. Now, that said, no criminal was ever kilt, no target was ever punched and no awards were ever won based on how a pistol takes down..........

 

[Riktoven]

nice size, gritty trigger, and waaay too many controls hanging off the side for this shooter's taste.

 

[bigmike45]

I have heard good things about them, but I can't vouch for the 9mm. However if they are only half as good as my PT-145 Millinneum Pro......you will really like the pistol.
I have the newest version with the light rail. I believe it is known as the third generation.

 

[MillCreek]

I have a 9 mm stainless Millennium Pro with about 450 rounds through it by now. No misfeeds, no FTF, no FTE. Completely reliable so far. I like it and carry it often. And compared to my Ruger Mark II, it is easy to field strip, in my view.

 

[SouthpawShootr]

Do yourself a favor and get the Millenium Pro. The original Millenium series had a number of problems throughout the line, from shearing pins to cracking frames, to shearing off safeties. The current 9mm Pros are a little bit bigger than the original 9mms but you're getting a more durable gun. Most reports I've seen on the new Millenium Pros are favorable. Lots of people still complain about the trigger, so make sure you are ok with that.

 

[AirPower]

I'm about to get my Millennium Pro 9mm this week so we'll see how it works.

As for speed/ease of takedown/assembly, it should not be a measure of a guns worth or quality. No one fieldstrips the gun everyday and the extra minute to take down the gun is nothing compared to the time you'll be cleaning the gun so it's a moot point. Further more, there's always trade off, and while you may get a great take down pistol, you may have to put up with mechnical accuracy of the gun, or its durablity, or functionality, or all of them. I know Glock is a great gun and easy to take down but it's fame is not from fast take down, rather is its value and reliability.

1911 is one of the more "difficult" gun to take down and people tend to get idiot scratches from the operation. Yet it's still an excellent handgun.

 

[duncan]

Good is relative.

With guns, the more you spend, the more you get.

For that money, you could buy a Kahr K9. Better quality and a nice but long trigger.

But around the gunshops people are not returning them.

Good enough to keep.

Taurus makes some fine SW clone revolvers though.

 

[MDG1976]

My dad is selling his. It's been 100% reliable, but darn near impossible to shoot straight. It's one of the most inaccurate gun's I've ever shot.

 

[cidirkona]

A friend got one with a bad magazine - the follower wouldnt' connect with the slide stop, just looked chewed up real well after a few mags of ammo.

He took it back to the shop and they gave him new magazines - not a problem since.

-Colin

 

[SouthpawShootr]

For that money, you could buy a Kahr K9. Better quality and a nice but long trigger.

Kahr run around $500 & up, new. Anybody thinking of paying more than $400 (out the door) for a brand new Millenium Pro should rethink. Around here, the Millenium Pros run $325 for blued and $350 for stainless, new.

BTW, I heartily recommend the K9. Lower capacity but you get a great gun. Flat, accurate, and reliable. I don't care much for their polymer framed guns, though.

 

[Logistar]

TC-TX,

I have never held a P-11. Maybe I should try one.

FWIW - Using my older PT-111...

Take down about 5 seconds. Putting it back together... about 15 seconds. (Takes a little longer to put the springs back on the guide rod going in.)

I can't field strip ANY of my other guns any faster. (Beretta 92, Keltec P-32, etc)

 

[duncan]

There are a lot of better subcompact 9mms out there.

glock 26
SA XD
Kahr K9
Sig P-225
HK USP
Even the Daewoo DP51C

Spend your money wisely.

Better to save for a keeper than dump a dawg!

 

[procomps]

I have an original model PT-111 Titanium 9mm that I really like for carry. 16oz. empty, fits my hand perfectly, never a problem through 600+ rounds. It was tricky to field strip and reassemble the first time, but simple enough afterwards. I bought mine used, so there may have been any number of rounds fired before I got it. No evidence whatsoever of any frame cracking, pin shearing, or any other problem. Mine shot low and left when I first got it, but now I can shoot 3" groups at 7 yards at about 10 shots in 7-8 seconds. I want to get a Millineum Pro for 12 rounds and 24/7 mag compatibility, then pass on my current gun to my son.

I also have a 24/7 in 9mm for home defense. It has about 1" greater length and 1/2-3/4" longer grip than the Mill Pro 111, otherwise they are mechanically very similar guns. 24/7 17-round mags will also work in the Mill Pro with some mag sticking out, but the Mill Pro is still quite shootable. So, if you carry the Mill Pro 12+1 and a 17 spare mag, that's 30 rounds!

I have not shot many other types of guns, but I have compared my Tauruses to everything in my local gun shop, and my opinion is that the Taurus brand is very high quality. I would rather have two $400 Tauruses than one $1000 gun of "supposedly" better quality anytime.

 

[SONICMASD]

1. How can one complain about the number of controls "sticking out there"???
oh you mean take down, slide release, and safety?? oh man thats way to many for my simple mind to handle?

2. Listen to MrTuffPaws he knows his stuff, dont get the normal series as they had some problems stick with the PRO series and you wont be dissapointed.

3. Better subcompacts? i dont think so. but thats just me.

SA XD- no manual safety (retarded grip safety and glock trigger safety) so that automatically takes it out for me- also more expensive

HK USP- I dont like HK mag releases and they are way overpriced (1500 rounds through my 24/7 not one failure of any kind and great accuracy) plus no lifetime warranty

Glock 26- ahah your kidding right? i see glock as the simplest, ugliest, auto ever made. just plain lacking in every way.

cant speak for the kahr and daewo but i do know that nothing beats taurus' warranty and I KNOW first hand how great taurus products are. You will not be dissapointed.

THE TRIGGER- its looong, but not heavy, not gritty, no take up at the end. IT IS LONG but its consistent and it lightens up around 500+ rounds. If you're going to carry a gun there are huge advantages to having a DAO pistol and its not like a revolver DA or most auto DA pulls. Its NOT heavy, just long. You can still double tap just as fast, you can still be just as accurate but if you're used to SA then it will take some getting used to.