Taurus PT92 shooting low...

[HB]

I have a recently purchased Taurus 92 that shoots pretty low at both 7 and 15 yards with all weights of 9mm ammo. Its very accurate with basically one hole groups at 7 and fist sized groups at 15 yards but 3'' and 6'' low respectively. I'm 99% sure that it isn't me as my dad and girlfriend have the same issue. I've shot it from a bench as well, so it isn't just a flinch.

EDIT... This is with a center hold. I prefer a 6 o'clock anyway. You would have to cover the target with the slide/hammer/firing pin area of the gun to get hits in the bull and that isnt too conducive to accuracy...

Obviously I can't adjust the sights and I don't think that filing the front sight will work, and I'd rather just not do that and ruin the finish on a stainless gun. Are there any good adjustable or taller rear sights that will work without much more than drifting the old sight?

I considered just changing my grip but that doesn't really seem to effect POI, so hopefully a sight will be a non-issue.

I've heard this is a problem with some of the Berettas and Tauri as they have a loose barrel/slide fit. It really isn't a huge deal if it was a "defensive" gun, however, it is nice to hit cans rather than the group beneath them

Thanks,
HB

PS, I would highly recommend this pistol EVEN if it is a Taurus. Its been reliable with all ammo I've put through it, even Wolf steel cased. Not a bad gun for about 400 bucks.

 

[Rail Driver]

I had a taurus .357 that would shoot low as well (for some reason they make their front sight blades overly tall). I just adjusted my sight picture to compensate.

 

[DasFriek]

My dad had the same issues with his PT92AFS shooting low also.
I searched the web high and low and only came up with one answer.

http://www.precisionsights.com/Product/tpu29ts.html

$67.55 They actually sit low enough it can almost get in the way of your thumb if you try and cock the hammer manually. Thats a pretty low price fow adjustable sights and they seemed very well made out of steel.
My dad loved them and hes dead-on target now.

Id call them and make sure they have them in stock just in case, since they are about the only adjustable option you dont have many choices.I also installed them myself.
You will need to double check on the net as the rear sight will only slide off in one direction and i forget which way it was. The stock one was a little rough to get off, But the new one went on quick.

 

[Steve C]

Shoot a test target off a bench with a rest that stops you from pulling the barrel down in anticipation of recoil or pulling by increasing your grip as you squeeze the trigger. Concentrate on sight alignment and squeezing the trigger directly toward the back of the pistol using the first pad of your finger. Make sure the top of front sight is aligned at the top of the rear, focus on the front sight, not the target. The target should be a little fuzzy. Shoot at a 25 yd bull target though at 7 and 15 yds it should be pretty much right on. If you are shooting that close use a 1" paste on target.

Most of the time when a fixed sighted gun doesn't shoot where aimed its the shooter not the gun. An inch or two up or down shouldn't be much of an issue at 25 yds but 6" low (center of group) low at 15 isn't right.

I've seen lots of people who try to fix poor technique with adjustable sights. Similar to a poor golfer aiming for the rough to compensate for his slice.

 

[hardworker]

If it aims anything like a 92fs you have to actually line up the middle of the front dot with the top of the two back sights. I had that same problem with the 92fs till I started picking the front of the gun up more

 

[DasFriek]

Guys i have no reason to believe the OP isnt 100% sure his issue isnt like the one i faced.
My dad had himself and 2 other people shoot it with the same results.
I told him it couldn't be off that far and took it to the range myself and to hit a bullseye you couldn't even use the sights.
I shot the gun off a rest at 25 yards and was doing my best to even compensate and the best i could get was 6" low.

Im the type who will modify something before replacing it, But the only option here was to grind the front sight down. If you just moved the dot down the sight would cover your target.

Ive been told different ammo would help, Mainly 147gr would tend to drop less. That had no effect either.

HB- Post a few pics of the rear sight on your gun to see the height differences. Also after bore sighting and shooting to make sure the gun was shooting perfect according to the sights it still has more room to lower the sight even more.

Here is a stock PT92 i found on the web as i dont have the original rear sight to hold next to the new one, But there is a sizable difference.



My dads gun:

 

[HB]

Shoot a test target off a bench with a rest that stops you from pulling the barrel down in anticipation of recoil or pulling by increasing your grip as you squeeze the trigger. Concentrate on sight alignment and squeezing the trigger directly toward the back of the pistol using the first pad of your finger. Make sure the top of front sight is aligned at the top of the rear, focus on the front sight, not the target. The target should be a little fuzzy. Shoot at a 25 yd bull target though at 7 and 15 yds it should be pretty much right on. If you are shooting that close use a 1" paste on target.

Thanks for the advice, but I know what I'm doing and have tested the gun thoroughly. I've shot plenty of handguns and while shooting low can be caused by a flinch or trigger jerk, I am not doing either. In this case the gun shoots low...

Thank you very much DasFriek, thats exactly what I'm looking for and should be worth the money if it works as promised.

HB

 

[NavyLCDR]

Those sights will work as promised. I had them on a Taurus PT-92 and loved it. $10 for a gunsmith to install. I think brownell's also sells them and maybe numrich. I think I got mine straight from the company and they gave me a good military discount.

 

[DasFriek]

Im pretty sure i ordered mine straight from the company as Brownells was out of stock on the 2 dot rear sight. Id call for instock quantity check as small companies not always have everything ready to ship. Mine were i do know that.
As i said if you do it yourself double check the net as to which way the old ones come out.
The dovetail is angled so the sights will only come out one side.
$10 for a Smith is a deal also, Make sure to mention the angle to him as im sure he hasn't changed many Taurus PT92 rear sights. As they are a different angles and such than the Beretta's.

I know some of you guys don't believe its the sights but is many other things, And i would agree with you before i went threw this myself. I did everything possible to eliminate the issue and the last resort was replace the sight and it was dead on with my bore sight the minute i installed them.

And they are solid pieces of steel, Definitely worth more than $67 for an adjustable target sight which is normally over $100.

Good luck HB and i hope yours works out and your as happy as my dad is with his.