Taurus Quality

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I actually hear more posititive things about Taurus Autoloaders than their revolvers. When i was on my hunt to get myfirst gun It was between the Tracker 627 and the Ruger GP-100, I finally found a shop that carried both and went with the GP not that i didnt like the tracker I just liked the a Ruger more. I still might get a PT92 as my first Semi Auto, havnt decided yet.
 
I will never buy Taurus at any price.

I've heard more Taurus-related horror-stories than I care to share, but suffice to say that the QC is either hit or miss BIG TIME and the customer service is far worse than anything you'd get at the DMW (guns being returned with parts missing would be a prime example). I wouldn't let anyone in my family carry it, I wouldn't advise my neighbor to carry it, and (as your can see) I urge complete strangers not to buy Tauri.

Search around the 'net if you like, and I believe you'll find that Taurus is a RISKY proposition any way you slice it.

And to re-emphasize another point made earlier in the post:

"The last Episode was when my wife,brother in law and I were at the range and after about 20 rounds my wife flipped the cylinder out to do a reload and the cylinder and crane fell on the bench."

Some Tauri are duds, some are ticking time bombs and some are JUST FINE. If I bought one (which, again, I never will) I wouldn't rest easy at all because I wouldn't know which of the three I had... which goes double for why I'd never allow a loved one to carry a Taurus.

Any gun can jam, any manufacturer can produce a lemon on the rare occasion and any gun can be rough out of the box. With Taurus (as directly opposed to Ruger and Smith), I believe the odds of an immediate or not-so-far-down-the-road problem of a serious or catastrophic magnitude are quite high comparatively and that the extremely poor customer service doesn't do anything even approaching marginally acceptable to support their questionable product.

You won't regret NOT buying a Taurus.
 
righteousbarbarian said:
I have a taurus 617 and i love it. i had to tighten the screw that holds the cylinder release on, but besides that i've had zero technical problems with it. my only complaint is the 10 lb trigger when I use it in DA. i might get that worked on, but then again maybe not because it is my carry gun and i like that it only goes off when i want it to.

ironically a couple days after saying this i'm having a problem. i was just showing my gun to a friend and the cylinder came off. we weren't firing the gun or being rough with it, so I don't know why it happened. Sadly, I think a tiny spring was lost during the whole ordeal. Now i need to figure out how to send the gun back to Taurus for repairs.
 
Well, an update on the 445. The firing pin spring does not stand up to dry firing (maybe 200 times?). Wasn't using snap caps, as figured it was a frame mounted firing pin. The firing pin spring is a mighty weak looking affair. Will order another, or two.

Anyone else have this happen?

Otherwise the 445 is pretty accurate for what it is. What it isn't is a fast reloader.
 
I must be long-overdue to get a bad Taurus, 'cause after almost 20 years of buying and shooting the things I've never really gotten a bad one.

Well, except for their .22 revolvers. Those just suck, and I have to attribute it to poor design more than bad workmanship. Even for that, mine wasn't all that bad, except for the heavy trigger that you couldn't lighten without having light primer strikes/failures to fire.

As for internet horror stories... what do you expect? It's the internet, and far too many people like to rain on other people's parade. *shrug*

My best suggestion is buy a Taurus and see for yourself. If you like it, try another. If not, buy something else next time. It's the only way you'll know for sure whether they suit you or not.


J.C.
 
Glockman, that's the story of most of these as well as a few made up one's mixed in here, but won't go into detail here.

Revolvers are slow to reload by nature. There are speedloaders,even for the 5 shot .44 Special revolvers. Even for the 7 shooters.

445s ,617s, and 817s sold like hotcakes at a pancake house around here .Those dozens of owners in this area haven't seen the problems attributed to them nor have any gone back. Not even the more than 12 shops around here have sent anything back,refund anything, nor did they send stuff back to the factory.

The get togethers for discussions,well attended, at the local gun stores have been positive about all this.
 
I would buy another, but then I read threads like this and all the bad reviews stay in the back of my mind. My PT145 and 85UL have both had uneventful lives. No problems to report here and I carry them the most. But I think I'm going to cash my chips and get out while it's still good. They'll still get range time but not so much for carry. I'm looking for simplicity in design and function, and breaking down a PT145 and looking at all the little parts(especially in the slide) does not sit well with me anymore. So many little exposed springs and parts, somethings going to break sooner than later and I'd rather not depend on them as my main carry anymore. Probably going to go with S&W and(though I hate to say it...gulp) a Glock. There I said it, and feel much better now.
 
At one time or another I had three Taurus revolvers, all in .38 Special. Every one of them had serious problems with the cylinder locking up. I don't know why I bought the second and third ones, I must have been optimistic.

I've also known people who had good luck with them. I think craig_o put it pretty well:

"Any gun can jam, any manufacturer can produce a lemon on the rare occasion and any gun can be rough out of the box. With Taurus (as directly opposed to Ruger and Smith), I believe the odds of an immediate or not-so-far-down-the-road problem of a serious or catastrophic magnitude are quite high comparatively and that the extremely poor customer service doesn't do anything even approaching marginally acceptable to support their questionable product."

There are too many alternatives out there, new and used, to bother with the Taurus.
 
Model 455

I daily carry a Model 455 (2 inch) and obviously I like it and find it reliable. In fact, I wish that I had bought a 4 inch version when they were still available. At the time I was short of the extra dollars so I did not do so. Now I can't find a NOB one which I regret.

My desire for the 4 inch is so that I can have the barrel cut to 2.5 inches for carry, have the adjustable sights which I prefer and eliminate the useless "porting" holes which only serve to dirty the front sight.

Opinions about Taurus quality and service vary widely as you have seen. I have not had any problems with either but then the only "service" they have done for me is sell me some additional moon clips and a smaller grip (I did not care for the fuzzy factory grip. It took a while to receive the moons but I knew that when I ordered as they told me they were on backorder.

Obviously I would buy another Taurus.

John
Charlotte, NC
 
Taurus is a good value in a revolver the same way a Corolla is a good value in cars.

I just bought a GP141 this summer because the general consensus is that it's a diamond in the rough - there are little things you can do (dry fire thousands of times, replace hammer springs, etc) to make it an excellent handgun.

Given the corolla post, and the gunsmith post, it sounds like there's not much you can do to a Taurus - you're stuck with what you bought. Is that really the case? It seems like if you buy a Ruger, you're going to run into known quality issues, mainly dealing with spring weights and the trigger needing extra polish, but if you buy a Taurus, it's really just a crap shoot and you can't do anything about it if you roll snake eyes.

Does that sum it up?

There are too many alternatives out there, new and used, to bother with the Taurus.

Well then - who else is making a 45LC/410 shot shell revolver?
And lest we forget, they're the only major revolver manufacturer out there who hasn't made horrible political decisions (that I know of).
 
I have 2 taurus revolver and 2 pistols they all work fine.....haven't had any problems yet. I actually carry my Taurus 627 90% of the time and I love it...
 
Given the corolla post, and the gunsmith post, it sounds like there's not much you can do to a Taurus - you're stuck with what you bought. Is that really the case? It seems like if you buy a Ruger, you're going to run into known quality issues, mainly dealing with spring weights and the trigger needing extra polish, but if you buy a Taurus, it's really just a crap shoot and you can't do anything about it if you roll snake eyes.

Does anyone ever bother to pick up a revolver and check it out before purchase, work it through to check timing, check end play, etc? Or, do you just walk in, look at a gun, point to it and put your cash on the counter? If I check the gun out, it times well, is tight, I will consider the purchase. Most of the guns I buy anymore are used. My 4" M66 Taurus was one of my better purchases, perfect timing, tight, no play, looked as if it'd maybe fired a box of .38 or something. Was $197 at a gun show. I bought it and it's proved to be the most accurate DA 4" .357 K frame sized gun I've ever owned. I like K frames, but Smith and Wesson M19s start at about 400 bucks and besides, I had one and it wasn't as accurate or as nice a gun IMHO as my Taurus. The trigger was as good, but I like the Taurus in that the frame is a little bigger and the gun seems a little stronger. It's no Ruger, but it doesn't have that stinkin' flat spot on the bottom of the forcing cone. I had that crack once on a M10 and had to rebarrel it. Putting hot .357 though that design CAN'T be any easier on the forcing cone. It has been a problem with Smith K frames in the past. I had a Security Six once. Felt recoil with that thing was much worse than the Taurus and it just flat didn't like .38 fired in it, no better than 3-4" groups at 25 yards with Remington hollow base wadcutter loads, not real good. My Taurus will put those into an inch all day long and twice on Sunday.

Frankly, the out of the box trigger on that M66 is hand over fist better than any Ruger DA. Yeah, I did a home trigger job on my Security Six and it was sweet after that, but it was also necessary. The Taurus is good enough that it doesn't NEED a trigger job. It's every bit as smooth and light as my M10 that's an early sixties gun and has had plenty of cycles of the trigger. And, that M10 is as nice as my M19 was, so extrapolating, I'd say my M66 is as good as my M19 was. Now, I CHECKED that gun out before I bought it. I didn't just walk up and lay the money down. Had the guy refused to let me handle the gun, I'd have walked on to another table. There wasn't much at that show worth what they were askin', so I'd probably not have bought anything. K frame .357s down here start at about 400 if not worn out and work their way up. I can buy a NEW RUGER for not much more'n THAT! If I'm going to buy a more expensive revolver, it'll be a Ruger. However, Ruger doesn't have the variety in their line that Taurus does. If you want a Smith, you can find an equivalent Taurus for many dollars less and in some cases, I've found the out of the box quality better, such as the trigger in my M85UL. I have owned or felt no sweeter out of the box trigger except maybe an old room mate's Colt Python. That thing was pretty sweet, but it was 800 bucks in 1978 dollars! It SHOULD be sweet.
 
I don't own... or have ever owned a Taurus (yet) but I'm about to buy the .45LC/.410 'Judge'... as a carry weapon. I presently carry an S-A 1911-A1 parkerized, no frills, fixed sights 'shooter'. As such... I do not intend to 'engage' at 25 yards or even 15 yards. I carry for point defense (mine) 'n not for punchin' nicely grouped holes in paper. I figure 3 .36 cal lead balls in the air at once is a good 'point defense' idea. I don't carry concealed... 'Don't have to... and I wouldn't have anywhere to conceal it anyway. 'Not that I'd be able to 'get at it' w/o some clothes yankin' fancy dance preliminaries. I must be a rarity... 'cause I'm not interested in asthetics. I'm more concerned with function as a tool and what fits my hand. 'Never thought of weapons (any) as a fashion accessory. They're weapons... 'That's their purpose. I'm readin' this stuff about 'cylinders' falling out... 'Sorry... mechanical devices do not just 'disassemble' unless somebody took 'em apart 'n reassembled them incorrectly. A round downrange is divorced from what the device that fired it looks like. It is the round that does the 'work'... not the device that fired it. Realistically... self defense is the original 'point and click' interface. Not much precision about that. (You don't have time...) I use the largest calibre round I can shoot with one hand more than once in rapid succession. .45LC and .45acp are managable. They will stop, if not outright kill any human target... usually. If I can purchase a reliable weapon that handles the same calibre with reasonable accuracy much cheaper than some fancy gee-whiz gadget that does the same thing... with a higher price tag... It's a no brainer.
 
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