I was perusing the Taurus website and decided to see what was new in the pipeline for '05. At the bottom of the revolvers page I noticed that the snubby was chambered for 9mm/.38spl/.357mag/.38super. Looking closer, I saw that these were not separate chamberings but all from the same gun. I know there was a gun a few years back (maybe the Medusa?) that was ridiculously expensive but would chamber everything but rocks and twigs in the .38ish caliber line. I'm definately intrigued by the prospect of a practice with 9mm (cheap) and carry the .357 (devastating) gun that will be halfway affordable. Any ideas or rumours?
Taurus Triad
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BryanP
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Interesting. Looks like a variant of the 627 with an MSRP of $508 -
And a variant of the 85 with an MSRP of $430 -
And a variant of the 85 with an MSRP of $430 -
MrTuffPaws
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How cool is that? Taurus has amazing variation in their product line. Why can't other gun companies do the same?
jeff-10
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I wonder what kind of accuracy you will get out of it. Anyways I am glad Taurus likes to try thinking outside the box when they come up with new designs. Now only if they will come out with a revolver in 40S&W/10mm.
TMM- When the Medusa first came out, it was very affordable but availability was scarce. I don't know if the idea just all of a sudden stuck, but the next thing I see is $1200 price tags. Handy gun, not that handy. Then as soon as they arrived, they were gone again. Jeff-10, I've owned a few Taurus 85's and always shot them well. For whatever reason I always get rid of them and then start lusting for another one. Right now, the jones is for the new Bodyguard-esque Taurus. The last local gun show I was at had the .357 model for $279. 
Find a S&W for that (Don't flame me S&W fans, I respect the guns just not the prices). Had to edit the post, was just drooling over the thought of a 10mm snubby. TAURUS- MAKE IT HAPPEN!
Find a S&W for that (Don't flame me S&W fans, I respect the guns just not the prices). Had to edit the post, was just drooling over the thought of a 10mm snubby. TAURUS- MAKE IT HAPPEN!
Rotorflyr
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Interesting, I'll have to keep my eye on this one, cause I'd like to see more info/reviews on it as well!
I'm thinking that theoretically, if it shoots 9mm, it should shoot .380 also. This might get recoil sensitive folks in the game. I've never shot the 9x23 but the stats look impressive. I'm at the 99.9% mark in the must have column for this one.
I doubt it will shoot 9x23 Winchester. I had a Medusa, it cost me about $700 IIRC but I opted for the "ploymer" finish which added $100. So the gun was around $600 or so. It was a good enough revolver but the metal work was not what I expected. It wasn't bad really, but the edge of the recoil plate have a dent where metal was displaced before finishing and was not fixed, so it was quite and eyesore.
The Medusa used a neat extractor star that had little ears that slipped under the cartridge rim, this is how it accomodated all of those calibers. I do not know how the Taurus Triad is set up but if it is a similar set-up it will do all of the calibers of the Medusa. Medusa advertised 28 cartridges or so but many of them were obsolete, unobtainable or extremely expensive due to scarcity. I used 9mm, .38 Special & .357 Mag the most. I broke the special extractor set-up b/c I shot some 9mm first and then went to .38's or magnums so the cases stuck in the cylinder due to fouling in the cylinder from the shorter 9mm's. They say to fire the longer cartridges first, which I know is best but sometimes you just do what you do. Anyway, they say not to force the ejector rod, which I did, but not that hard and it broke one of the ears on the extractor. By this point, Medusa was no longer selling guns, but was still doing warranty repairs. I sent in my cylinder and they fitted a new extractor star for a decent price.
In talking to the owner he told me that he got out of the gun business because he wasn't a gun guy amd didn't like all of the hassle, ie. ATF, customers messing stuff up, etc. I believe he was an engineer and went back to that. He sold his remaining frames and parts to one of the customer revolver smiths who's name escapes me now. If you search here for my name & medusa I have a link to it in a prior post. It is called the Scorpion now and goes for either $1200 or $1600 I can't remember now. Of course it is a much nicer finished product, but not that nice IMO.
Anyway, my whole point in posting was about 9x23 Winchester. Medusa had published that the Medusa was "already chambered for this new caliber before it was introduced." I bought a box and it would not chamber. The 9x23 Win is a tapered base and is too fat at the base. I would imagine that the Taurus will have the same problem. Dane Burns was converting S&W 940 9mm Centennial revolvers to 9x23 Winchester (which he stopped doing due to safety concerns) and he said that .357 Magnums could be fired in it after the conversion, but that the brass would not be reloadable because it would bulge the case at the base due to the 9x23 being thicker at the base.
The Medusa used a neat extractor star that had little ears that slipped under the cartridge rim, this is how it accomodated all of those calibers. I do not know how the Taurus Triad is set up but if it is a similar set-up it will do all of the calibers of the Medusa. Medusa advertised 28 cartridges or so but many of them were obsolete, unobtainable or extremely expensive due to scarcity. I used 9mm, .38 Special & .357 Mag the most. I broke the special extractor set-up b/c I shot some 9mm first and then went to .38's or magnums so the cases stuck in the cylinder due to fouling in the cylinder from the shorter 9mm's. They say to fire the longer cartridges first, which I know is best but sometimes you just do what you do. Anyway, they say not to force the ejector rod, which I did, but not that hard and it broke one of the ears on the extractor. By this point, Medusa was no longer selling guns, but was still doing warranty repairs. I sent in my cylinder and they fitted a new extractor star for a decent price.
In talking to the owner he told me that he got out of the gun business because he wasn't a gun guy amd didn't like all of the hassle, ie. ATF, customers messing stuff up, etc. I believe he was an engineer and went back to that. He sold his remaining frames and parts to one of the customer revolver smiths who's name escapes me now. If you search here for my name & medusa I have a link to it in a prior post. It is called the Scorpion now and goes for either $1200 or $1600 I can't remember now. Of course it is a much nicer finished product, but not that nice IMO.
Anyway, my whole point in posting was about 9x23 Winchester. Medusa had published that the Medusa was "already chambered for this new caliber before it was introduced." I bought a box and it would not chamber. The 9x23 Win is a tapered base and is too fat at the base. I would imagine that the Taurus will have the same problem. Dane Burns was converting S&W 940 9mm Centennial revolvers to 9x23 Winchester (which he stopped doing due to safety concerns) and he said that .357 Magnums could be fired in it after the conversion, but that the brass would not be reloadable because it would bulge the case at the base due to the 9x23 being thicker at the base.
BluesBear
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I am still trying to figure out how Taurus is going to prevent those .44-40 cases from splitting in a .45 colt chamber. 
And after they pull off that bit of prestidigitation, how in the heck are they going to get a .427 bullet to shoot accurately from a .452" barrel?
Spring loaded rifling?
This is the Phillips & Rogers Medusa revolver extractor.
And after they pull off that bit of prestidigitation, how in the heck are they going to get a .427 bullet to shoot accurately from a .452" barrel?
Spring loaded rifling?
This is the Phillips & Rogers Medusa revolver extractor.
stiletto raggio
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In titanium, it is the ultimate "adventurer revolver." If there is any ammo to be found anywhere in the world, it is probably of the 9mm sort. .357s and .38s are everywhere in the states, but think aobut how prevalent 9x18 russian is! A 4" .357 is plenty versatile as it is, but a 24 ounce, non-corroding version taht will chamber a half dozen of the world's most popular cultures makes it something of a "scout pistol," jack of all trades.
Now, if they would just do the same think in a 5 shot .45 colt/ACP configuration, I would be really impressed. Ammo not as available, but quite a bit more potent. It really ticks me off that Taurus dropped their .45 Colt line.
Now, if they would just do the same think in a 5 shot .45 colt/ACP configuration, I would be really impressed. Ammo not as available, but quite a bit more potent. It really ticks me off that Taurus dropped their .45 Colt line.
BluesBear
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Danger Will Robinson!
I would NOT advocate trying to shoot 9x18 in the Triad!
Forcing that .363" bullet through that .357" bore could be disasterous!
Taurus is only saying it will work with .357/.38, 9mm and .38 Super.
We don't yet know if the extractor system will work with anything else.
Hell's Bellsâ„¢ we don't know if it will work at all yet and it'll be at least 3rd quarter 2005 before they see the light of day.
I would NOT advocate trying to shoot 9x18 in the Triad!
Forcing that .363" bullet through that .357" bore could be disasterous!
Taurus is only saying it will work with .357/.38, 9mm and .38 Super.
We don't yet know if the extractor system will work with anything else.
Hell's Bellsâ„¢ we don't know if it will work at all yet and it'll be at least 3rd quarter 2005 before they see the light of day.
wileyj
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stiletto raggio,
Taurus still has the 450 and 460 series in double action 45 Colt. And the new SA pistols and the new 45 Colt pump action rifle
..wiley
Taurus still has the 450 and 460 series in double action 45 Colt. And the new SA pistols and the new 45 Colt pump action rifle
..wiley
Ohen Cepel
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The neat factor is great. However, it doesn't do much for me.
With .38's I can load light and keep it real mild then go hot with .357's Don't see the gain in putting 9mm's in it.
I could see it if I was going to travel the world with it. However, I' think a good .357 will fit the bill for most people.
With .38's I can load light and keep it real mild then go hot with .357's Don't see the gain in putting 9mm's in it.
I could see it if I was going to travel the world with it. However, I' think a good .357 will fit the bill for most people.
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Does it feature the "wear the skin off your finger" horrible Taurus trigger? Can you do a trigger job or use lighter springs and still fire magnums?
BluesBear
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My 2" 445 and Lady45's 2" 650 have wonderful triggers. Both in finish and pull weight.
MillCreek
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The triggers on my NIB Taurus 651 and 650, manufactured in 2004 and 2005, were pretty good right out of the box. They became even better when I hosed out the lockwork with spray degreaser to remove any debris, gave a good shpritz of Breakfree CLP into the lockwork and let that drain out, dropped in a few drops of Tetra lube into the lockwork, loaded up the A-Zoom snapcaps and did about three hundred repetitions of dry firing. The triggers are coming along quite nicely now.....
I should mention that I follow this same protocol with any new revolver that I purchase, not just Taurus. Unfortunately, although I am doing the same thing with my NIB Ruger SP-101 in .22 LR that was manufactured in 2004, the trigger is still worse than that of the Taurus revolvers. I am not sure what I am going to have to do with the Ruger.
I should mention that I follow this same protocol with any new revolver that I purchase, not just Taurus. Unfortunately, although I am doing the same thing with my NIB Ruger SP-101 in .22 LR that was manufactured in 2004, the trigger is still worse than that of the Taurus revolvers. I am not sure what I am going to have to do with the Ruger.
TSH77769
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WOW COOL!! I would like to have one of these. I would also like to have one of the instant backup 9mm's.
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dawei
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TSH77769 said...................
WOW COOL!! I would like to have one of these. I would also like to have one of the instant backup 9mm's.
Tsh77769
Aren't they one & the same?
WOW COOL!! I would like to have one of these. I would also like to have one of the instant backup 9mm's.
Tsh77769
Aren't they one & the same?
BluesBear
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No the instant backup is a 9mm revolver built on a frame with a shorter cylinder window and shorter cylinder.
The Triad is a standard sized revolver that is touted as able to fire .357/.38Specialm 9mm and .38 Super interchangably without clips.
The Triad is a standard sized revolver that is touted as able to fire .357/.38Specialm 9mm and .38 Super interchangably without clips.
silhanek
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I don't think so.
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