TC ENCORE 44 mag

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I have a Bullberry custom 10" bbl for my Encore in 44 mag, and load it with Sierra 300 gr JFP to 1.715" OAL. Using either 19 grains of 4100 or 21 grains of 296 gives me about 1375 fps with great accuracy.

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Anybody have a GP 100 in .44 special? what do you think of it?
I have a 3” GP .44 Spl. It’s a chunky bruiser of a “snub” revolver, with the hi viz front sight and adjustable rear making it easy to shoot with compared to “traditional ” 3” revolvers that are more service-concealment oriented (Like my S&W Model 13 3” .357.). It is neither light nor small, and the full lug barrel just adds to the look of a beefy “little” gun.

I did not like the stock grips at all, I found them too large to conceal and not comfy to shoot. I picked up a set of the Ruger factory GP 100 compact grips and they popped right on, fit my hand well and absorb a bit more recoil to boot.

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With this gun I don’t load it to the gills. I have .44 Mags or a flat top Blackhawk that can take “.44 Special Skeeter loads” of 7.5 gr Unique under a 240 gr SWC without beating the gun or shooter up. Since this is more of a mid-frame gun I keep my loads to the 165 gr TCFP over 5.8 gr IMR Target or 200 gr RNFP over 6.5 gr Unique range. These are still allowing the shooter to know they’re not shooting a popgun but without the shock and awe of max pressure loads from a 3” revolver. This was DA two hand at ten yds. with the factory grip:

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The 5” half-lug Lipseys version is one beautifully made and balanced .44 Spl. If I was looking for a real trail gun for hunting/defense duties where weight or concealment wasn’t necessary, this is the direction I’d go rather than the 3” version...but that’s merely my opinion floating in a sea of others :).

They’re nice guns, I highly doubt you’ll be disappointed if you get one for yourself. :thumbup:

Stay safe.
 
Making jacketed bullets out of free range brass is actually caveman simple to do and doesn't take a lot of $$$ in equipment. With nothing more than a rock chucker press and common reloading dies, cast bullets and push thru sizing dies. I can turn out jacketed bullets.

Take a little time and look in a book that have diagrams of the different shell cases and their dimensions. The 6mm & 244 Remington, 257 Roberts, 6.5mm x 257, 7.7mm Japanese all have .429" diameters at the shoulders of the cases. Any of those fl sizing dies can be used as a nose forming die. I use a 6mm/244rem fl sizing die simply because I don't want a wide flat nosed bullet.

Free range brass/ 40s&w brass tumble cleaned
For the lead cores I used a 41cal hbwc cast out of free range lead. Some of the different hbwc'sI cast.
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I don't have a 40s&w shell holder so I use a 38spl/357 shell holder instead.
Use a 41mag expander die to expand the 40s&w case.
Drop a cast bullet in the expanded case (.401" 40s&w bullet or a .410" 41mag bullet) I prefer the .410" cast bullet.
Use the rod that goes into the shell holder from a set of lee push thru sizing dies. I use a .429" set
Set the expanded case with the cast bullet core on it and screw the 6mm fl sizing die in the press and adjust the fl die up/down until you get the nose profile you want. As your forming the nose of the bullet the body of the 40s&w case will be swaged/compressed into the correct diameter and the lead core will compress tightly against the 40s&w case.
Take the newly formed bullet and run it thru the lee ..429" sizing die.

When I make hp jacketed bullets out of shell cases I use a cast hbwc bullet for the cores. I also use a set of Hornady blank dies to put "XTP" notches in the nose of the bullets. If you look at the jacketed bullets in the post above you will see 2 lines/rings in those bullets. Those are there from the lube grooves in the cast hbwc. That's how tightly the core compress/expand/grab those 40s&w cases. They make excellent crimp grooves.
Making the bullet was simple enough to do, making the cores stay intact was a lot harder. It took 4 or 5 tries with different alloys to find a core that didn't implode. Testing @ 25yds into wet pack with a 1100fps load that simulates a 75yd to 100yd velocity/hit.
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Anyway simple enough
clean the cases
expand the cases
drop a lead core (cast bullet) into the expanded case
Run the case/core up in a fl die and form the bullet
Run the formed bullet thru a .429" lee push thru sizing die.
Wash rinse repeat

Fascinating! Thank you. :thumbup:
 
44 gets pretty peppy in single shots with long barrels. Encore is enough weight to soak part of that up. You may change your mind when you start cranking up the load. Heavy straight wall cartridges are considerably more recoil than you would imagine whereas bottleneck rifle rounds are a breeze.
 
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