Palladan44
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According to Hikok 45, Ted Nugent's favorite gun is the Glock 20 in 10mm auto.
Is this true?
Is this true?
Ted Nugent's favorite Gun...
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Ohen Cepel
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Can't speak for Ted but I do remember him talking about the Glock 20 a LOT years ago. Used to make a line of ammo, zebra pattern on the box IIRC, in 10mm.
Old Dog
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I've heard Ted state this.
Says he trains daily with a Glock 10mm:
https://www.tednugent.com/handgun-hunting/
I have a 20SF and have carried it quite a bit, but with the heat index consistently about 100 degrees a Glock 19 is easier for me to conceal.
https://www.tednugent.com/handgun-hunting/
I have a 20SF and have carried it quite a bit, but with the heat index consistently about 100 degrees a Glock 19 is easier for me to conceal.
sparkyv
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I'm no Gluck guy, but I've shot the G20 plenty and think highly of it. If ever I own one, it'll be the G20/G40.
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Teddy sold off most of his guns. There's was an auction here in Waco back in March. Not just guns but also cars, guitars, bows, hats etc.
He also resigned from the NRA board of directors after 25 years.
Here's the auctions' listing. ...I did not attend.
https://burleyauction.hibid.com/catalog/261573/ted-nugent-collection-auction
He also resigned from the NRA board of directors after 25 years.
Here's the auctions' listing. ...I did not attend.
https://burleyauction.hibid.com/catalog/261573/ted-nugent-collection-auction
Ignition Override
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Wow. Seems like a huge amount of items to auction at the same time - unless there is a health issue.
Notice the first page, and that there are (or were) a few More!
He still might own a variety of guns, bows, guitars?
Notice the first page, and that there are (or were) a few More!
He still might own a variety of guns, bows, guitars?
Pudge
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Which would you rather have if in a gunfight?
Rubone
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Why would anyone care about Ted Nugent anyway! I sure don't.
Pat Riot
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If you don’t care then why comment at all?
Very good question.
I'm slightly quicker on follow up shots with the 19 than my 23 or 32, that difference increases a little bit more with the 20SF.
IMO - 40 S&W, 357 Sig, and 10mm have better ASAP potential than 9mm, how much quicker that incapacitation might be is debatable.
The benefit of quick subsequent shots is hardly debatable.
Is my ability to make quickest follow up shots going to important in that hypothetical gunfight?
Buzznrose
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I have a G20 but I also like he XDm. Only advice I’d give is buy the optics ready version. I’m not sure you can cut an XD slide for a red dot.
Pudge
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It was simply a question to you. You said you carried the 10mm quite a bit, but that convenience, rather than efficacy in a gunfight, had relegated you to the 9mm. Just was curious which you'd rather have if you needed one, and why you'd allow the environment be a determining factor.
JR24
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In my opinion, yes. Getting accurate rounds quickly on target seems to be the best stopper from the myriad videos and whatnot I've seen on the internet at whatnot (thank God not personally) and yes there are the occasional guys who soak up bullets like a sponge, but they are the exception not the rule.
So my preferences is more rounds, faster, on target.*
I've also determined that when comparing like to like it's also much easier to get those rounds on target fast with the 9mm, especially while moving. Figure in a dynamic situation, easier will always be to my advantage with adrenaline and whatnot.
All that said, I love 10mm and do want a 40 MOS slide for my Glock in a hunting/woods role some day. .45 is fine for where I'm at but the 21 shoots so sweet it needs some 10mm love too.
I also did carry the Glock 21 for a while when I lived up north, very easy to do in flannel weather with a good holster.
*Caveat is service calibers. Before the "just carry a .22" argument pops up
Old Dog
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Rather a short-sided viewpoint if you care at all about the RKBA.
We need all the celebrity gun-owners and RKBA supporters we can muster up at this point. Like it or not (and none of us probably do), more attention is paid to celebrities in this country than actual productive, hardworking average citizens. Too many people seem to give more credence to the lifestyles of Kardashians, Pitt, Penn, Affleck and J-Lo than they think about their local school board (You don't see my photos with my latest love or my latest controversial quotes on the covers of US, People, Entertainment Weekly, TV Guide or National Enquirer at your local supermarket check stand, do you?
Charleton Heston has sadly passed on, Tom Selleck has been muzzled by CBS and Joe Mantegna doesn't get the views since he's relegated to the Outdoor Channel...
So, whatever you think of The Nuge, he's on our side, and he has a platform.
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I hate auctioneers that don’t post the prices. What is there to hide? But I know quite a few who sell their prices to collectors and appraisers so I guess that could be it.
It was a good question.
I encourage people to carry what they would prefer in hand, so asking me if that is what I do myself is fair.
I have carried the 20SF quite a bit and even in "summer attire" probably could without anybody noticing a slight bulge, if they were looking.
My shirts are patterned, loose, untucked and carry Glock 19 same as I would the 20SF - AIWB.
I've been to the range several times this year and always shoot comparatively, Glock 19/23/32 (all three) and the 20SF.
I shoot them all well, but I'm consistently a little bit quicker in follow up shots with the 19.
I've gone back & forth with 19/23/32 as to which is "best" overall, but slightly quicker shots and 2 more rounds (vs 23/32) are concrete advantages.
Then I think of examples like this, where a guy soaks up multiple rounds of 9mm and is not quickly incapacitated:
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/v...deputy-soaks-up-12-rounds-before-hes-stopped/
Dang it! Now you got me questioning my choice.
But, that is what we should do (strive to carry what is most advantageous). Now I've gotta ...
JR24
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Nothing in that story indicates what the deputy was carrying, as far as I could see. Nothing to say in that exact circumstance a 10mm would have done anything differently, especially if the deputy had a .40 (which there are plenty of instances of taking multiple hits) and would only be pushing the same bullets a bit faster.
Instead I think it's worth focusing on the tactical lessons to be learned and working on getting multiple hits to the right places if you find yourself in a circumstance like that. Though, simply running away would be preferable there, especially after a few hits and let time and blood pressure do the work for you, since you aren't a LEO.
I like the 10mm for woods work because it offers better penetration against heavy bone and fur or longer bodied game animals. I don't feel the need for the same deep penetration for two legged threats.
Instead I think it's worth focusing on the tactical lessons to be learned and working on getting multiple hits to the right places if you find yourself in a circumstance like that. Though, simply running away would be preferable there, especially after a few hits and let time and blood pressure do the work for you, since you aren't a LEO.
I like the 10mm for woods work because it offers better penetration against heavy bone and fur or longer bodied game animals. I don't feel the need for the same deep penetration for two legged threats.
@Pudge Thanks! I'm carrying the 20SF again.
The difference in follow up shot time vs Glock 19 (with +P) is less than 1/10 second, which is probably insignificant.
I prefer the 20SF grip, more room for my fingers, which are cramped on a 19/23 size frame.
AIWB the 20SF carries just as well, if not better.
I've seen what 10mm 155 XTP can do in tissue, holes bigger than a quarter.
The difference in follow up shot time vs Glock 19 (with +P) is less than 1/10 second, which is probably insignificant.
I prefer the 20SF grip, more room for my fingers, which are cramped on a 19/23 size frame.
AIWB the 20SF carries just as well, if not better.
I've seen what 10mm 155 XTP can do in tissue, holes bigger than a quarter.
I've seen that it was 9mm Gold Dots.
Gel is nice for comparison, but I don't think it is always reflective of results in tissue, like with 357 Sig / 357 Mag / 10mm :
https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/10mm-auto-self-defense-ammo-ballistic-gel-tests/
10mm 155 XTP - 14'' / .68
10mm 180 XTP - 16.9'' / .64
Neither of those is over penetrative.
However, expansion of .68 in gel is not reflective of the damage that bullet does in tissue.
A quarter is .95
Gel test comparison with 38 special and 357 Mag
https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/revolver-ballistics-test/
38 special 4'' Remington 158 LSWCHP +P 13.4'' / .56
357 Mag 4'' Remington 125 SJHP 13.6'' / .54
Gel result for those two is near the same, despite that the 357 Mag hits with 2x the KE.
Do I think those two loads equivalent in ASAP potential? Absolutely not, and I think most would agree with me. Gel not completely reflective.
Do I think 10mm 155 XTP (which makes holes bigger than a quarter) might have stopped that guy in video sooner than 9mm did? Yea, I kinda do.
JR24
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Well there ya go, whatever floats your boat. As long as you get your hits if/when you need them it's all good.
Mr. Hill
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He’s not on my side.
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