Teen arrested after showing handguns on blog

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In this case, it shows that the police are actually enforcing gun laws on the books

Somewhere else was posted colorado state law, it is not illegal for someone under the age of 18 to posess a handgun on private property with consent of parent/guardian.

I see alot of people making comments about things this kid wrote on his site, I tell you what - at that age the things I said and wrote and would have written in an online blog had that been available at the time would have sent you running for the hills. Kids say lots of things. Not all of them are the smartest things. Sometimes they say those things not realizing how serious others will take them. Sometimes its just an outlet for frustration.

The things he was quoted as saying did not alarm me a bit. The part about gunpoint against a bag of peas actually made me chuckle. This is just a kid talking tough, trying to sound cool.

The school overstepped its boundaries, big time on this one. If they wanted to contact the parents first, fine. But to jump to police and suspension for something this kid was doing off school property and by their own admission no direct threats, I hope they get the pants sued off them.

They probably ruined this kids life.

Just because they found something 'disturbing'. Ech. Go screw.
 
Wow.. so in other states it would be OK for an adult to purchase alchol for minors and allow them to drink in a private home? That's insane... lol I guess living in CA shields me from the rest of the world.. If I were to buy beer for some underage college kids here, I'd be going to jail. If they get hurt while intoxicated from the beer I bought, I'd be really screwed. Even when I was stationed at Camp Pendleton and 29 Palms, CA.. you had to be 21 to drink on base. We were having a big going away for one of our CWO's and the Company Commander asked the general to authorize people under 21 to drink for a few hours.. the answer was "NO!"


Anyway.. about the topic. I find it interesting that everyone seems to be OK with this kid posing with guns and a caption about "Wings o' Lead", yet everyone has a problem with the gangsters posing with guns.

California is causing more harm than good in its misguided attempts to reshape humanity through force of law. Its values are not necessarily the best, its approach is not necessarily the most effective and it is arguable they have no right to decide on our behalf in the first place.

Parents purchase alcohol for their children all the time back in the real world. Teaching responsible moderate consumption of alcohol is healthy and normal. Better they learn good drinking habits from you than learn it the hard way with a beer funnel and a long set of hangovers. These laws thus contribute to binge drinking and other irresponsible adult behavior.

Children can be instructed in the use of firearms without endangering anyone. It has been going on for centuries in this country. People (including children) do not become bloodthirsty killers when exposed to a firearm. Children raised with guns will know how to use them safely as adults. Again, California thinks it knows best and insists that this isnt so, but reality conspires against them again. These laws encourage irresponsible use of firearms by filling society with people who are largely ignorant of firearms safety and afraid of learning.
 
While I am a strong proponent of gun rights, I agree that that teen should be apprehended. He is obviously immature and not competent to own guns if he he showing them off on a blog.

Does that mean you are in favor of "apprehending" those in these forums who are obviously "immature and not competent enough to own guns" because they post pictures of THEIR weapons here?
 
molon labe

While I am a strong proponent of gun rights, I agree that that teen should be apprehended. He is obviously immature and not competent to own guns if he he showing them off on a blog.

I've got my guns on my myspace profile too.
 
"According to the Canyon Courier newspaper, one of the written entries from the student on the Web site said: "People suck and deserve to die.""

If he was hoping to attract a little attention I'd say he succeeded.

John
 
Ide say a good 60% of blog-posters are 'emo' kids who have "People suck and deserve to die." written at the beggining, middle, and end of every post, and then elaborate on it.

And then they talk about their new 125$ pair of shoes and spending 300$ on conert tickets and 'hot topic'.

Annoying buggers....
 
60% huh? I had to look up emo.

Sounds like another "Let's all dress alike and follow each other around" crowd.

In any event, posing with guns and saying people deserve to die is asking for trouble.

There's obviously a reason adults used to say that children should be seen and not heard.

John
 
EMO? I don't think so

I occasioanly browse livejournal (another blog service) and would say that 60% (of active posters, not users who make a post once a year) is a fair estimate.

Myspace could be different but i doubt it is too much so.
 
Boy who posed with guns convicted
Sue Lindsay, Rocky Mountain News
April 4, 2006

An Evergreen high school student who posted Internet photos of himself posing with guns was convicted Tuesday on a charge of possession of a handgun by a juvenile.

The conviction came despite his parents' testimony that they gave him permission to handle guns in their home without their supervision.

Colorado law prohibits possession of a handgun by a juvenile, but permits parents to give them permission to possess guns in their homes, even without supervision.

"This is a very difficult case," defense attorney Barrett Weisz said in his closing argument after a trial that began Friday.

"We have pictures that raise images of the Columbine massacre. But if we set the specter of Columbine aside," he argued, the boy should be acquitted and sent home.

The photos were posted on the popular teen web site myspace.com. The photos showed him posing with a number of rifles and three handguns — a .45 caliber pistol, and .22 and .357 revolvers.

The 16-year-old boy, who has been held in detention since his arrest in February, will be sentenced June 1. He was acquitted on two additional charges of handgun possession.

The judge set a $5,000 bond, but ordered that the boy must be evaluated and a safety plan drawn up before he can be released.

The boy's parents testified that they were upset and disappointed with their son when they discovered the photos, but said he had permission to handle the weapons.

"I was not pleased and told him to take (the photos) down," his father testified. "I told him, 'what were you thinking when you took these pictures?' I was upset."

The father, a gun collector and enthusiast who is an airline pilot and retired Air Force pilot, said he gave the boy and his brother extensive training in the safe handling of weapons.

He said he gave his sons permission to handle the guns in the home even when he wasn't there, and the boys had access to keys to trigger locks.

"It was due to their experience and my trust in them" to safely handle the weapons, he said. They often cleaned the guns after they had gone shooting and he was out of town for his job, he said. They also built guns from kits, he said.

But Jefferson County District Judge Brian Boatright said that permission had limits.

"That doesn't mean juveniles could run around the house and do whatever he wanted with the gun," Boatright said, noting that the father testified that the boys were not allowed to load or fire the weapons unless he was present.

Boatright acquitted the boy on two charges in which he posed with the handguns but did not have his finger on the trigger. One of the charges stemmed from a photo entitled "angel of death" in which he posed on the floor with guns surrounding his body.

He also stated in the myspace.com posting that people "deserve to die."

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_4595681,00.html
 
An Evergreen high school student who posted Internet photos of himself posing with guns was convicted Tuesday on a charge of possession of a handgun by a juvenile.

The conviction came despite his parents' testimony that they gave him permission to handle guns in their home without their supervision.

Colorado law prohibits possession of a handgun by a juvenile, but permits parents to give them permission to possess guns in their homes, even without supervision.

I don't understand how he broke the law, then.

Anyway, this is just astounding. Someone under 18 can't even touch a handgun if his parents aren't in the house?
 
...And people wonder why I vote out judges as a matter of principle. Their job is to make sure the laws are being followed, not interpreted along the way. When in doubt, interpret literally. Too bad (or maybe a good thing) I only work in Jefferson County, rather than vote there.


Kid acting stupid - maybe, but conviction?!?!?! YGTBFKM... I can't imagine a jury from Jefferson County (or anywhere else on the West/South end of the metro area) going 12-0 against on this thing.

...then again, I’m preaching to the choir
 
Reading through this thread brought this thought to mind:

"People are too weird for me to act human in public."

So the kid was stupid in front of a camera and put it on the Internet. did anybody investigate to see if he had any local reputation for anti-social behavior when he was away from home? Had he any history of public stoopid?

If something is not against the law, how can somebody be guilty of a crime?

I hope the parents can afford to move out of Stoopidville, to someplace where a modicum of sanity might prevail...

Art
 
I thought this was just as amazing:

The 16-year-old boy, who has been held in detention since his arrest in February, will be sentenced June 1. He was acquitted on two additional charges of handgun possession.

Why in the world would a 16 year old be in detention since FEB?! While they tried to decide if he even broke any laws?!?!

As somebody said way back there, if this kid wasn't "anti-authority" before this, he will be now!

None of this makes any sense unless somebody has an agenda against that boy or his family.

Gregg
 
while thekid probably isnt too bright, I dont see how what he did was against the law. Since when is it illegal for someone under 21 to be next to a handgun?
 
Unbelievable. What's even scarier is some of the posts here.

Isn't that the truth.

I am sure glad that I am not a teenager today. A radical freedom lover like me would spend the rest of his life in jail! Lord knows that I spent most of my "wasted youth" using firearms without "adequate" adult supervison.
 
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