[QUOTEyou clearly didn't read through my two previous posts. I work with this pistol and have seen a sample of several hundred of these pistols over the past eight years. In fact, I am an instructor for my employer (academy, line officers and tactical teams). If there were as many significant problems with the platform as some here would have us believe, I kinda think we'd have noted them by now.
But hey, believe whatever you want.
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Yes,I read your posts. Please do not take this the wrong way but your position does not impress me,was it supposed too???? Please do not try the old I'm a certified this that and the other thing,certification does not equal competence.
You are not the only one that carried a pie plate on your chest. I know very well how equipment is selected for PDs and by whom. Just because Agency X uses it doesn't mean squat.
Most cops do not shoot very well,mediocre at best. The pen is mightier than the sword during qualification.
S&W has QC issues.They have had all types of problems with the M&P line,Shield,Body Guard lines. Use Google.
I guess I and S&W were delusional when they called me and stated my returned BG38 could not be fixed(20% miss fires and piss poor accuracy) and they offered to give me a new revolver. The tech stated it was doing everything I wrote in my letter.
I was pretty set back when they said there was nothing wrong with my M&P FS 9mm. It patterns and does not group,shooting it past 15 yards is pointless. It vertically strings on slow fire drills. I have tried all types of ammo.
I have cap and ball revolvers that shoot better than the M&P FS 9mm.
You need to go out into the industry and look at all the changes made to the M&P,most just recently.
While I enjoy retirement and no longer enjoy the company of the golden children that rule PDs. I still shoot competitively and do training as a sideline and see hundreds of firearms as well. Most folks have to pour some bucks into the M&P models to get them somewhat shootable,the average cop wouldn't notice.
APEX has a loyal following for a reason. I notice that folks love their M&P triggers once they put $150.00-200 worth of APEX parts in their gun. The APEX extractor is good upgrade.
Grant at G&R Tactical states that once he hard fits the custom SL barrels and a good trigger job(APEX) that his then 7" gun patterns became bullseye level groups with a poly gun.
The accuracy issue is real with many (2006-2012+ish)Full Size M&P 9mms,NOT ALL. Most 9mm M&Ps shoot ok and some better than others.Some are total crap like my pistol and others.
Some folks are competent investigators others think they are. You can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink.