Texas Get's D- Grade from Brady Bunch...

[voilsb]

Oregon improved its grade from D+ to C- in 2001 thanks to the success of a citizen initiative to close the gun show loophole. 62% of voters in Oregon rejected the extremist views of the gun lobby and voted to require background checks on all sales of guns at gun shows. The state also has adequate juvenile sales and possession laws. However, Oregon still allows hidden handguns to be carried in schools; does not have a Child Access Prevention law to hold adults accountable for leaving firearms accessible to children; and has no handgun safety standards. Oregon also prohibits cities and counties from enacting stricter laws to protect children from gun violence and forces police to let people carry hidden handguns in public. In 1998, the most recent year for which data is available, 31 children and teenagers in Oregon died from gunfire.

Bascially, it says because we have NICS at gunshows and you have to be of a certain age to buy a gun, we got a C-.

Good stuff: cities can't be more strict, we're allowed CCW (shall-issue), even in schools, no "smart guns," and parents don't get in trouble for letting kids learn how to shoot.

edited because I didn't proofread

 

[4570Rick]

CA gets an A-

We have a Lame Duck, Lying, Cheating, Theiving, Anti Gun Governor.

We have a near Super Majority of Tax and Spend Anti Gun Legislators.

We have an Anti Gun Lt. Governor.

We have an Anti Gun A.G.

We passed more Anti Gun Legislation last year than any other state in the US.

If CA only rates an A-, I hold this as evidence that the ultimate gole of the @*%*$# Brady Bunch is total confiscation of all privately owned firearms. (Where's the vomit smilie when you need one)

These offsprings of a Mule and a Donky wont be happy until we've become a "Police State."

 

[voilsb]

In 1998, the most recent year for which data is available, 103 children and teenagers in Arizona died from gunfire, resulting in a youth firearm death rate 34% higher than the national average.

In 1998, the most recent year for which data is available, 16 children and teenagers in Alaska died from gunfire, resulting in a youth firearm death rate 35% higher than the national average.

those numbers don't quiet add up ... 103 is 34% above the average, and 16 is 35% over the average. I smell bad math.

the alaska figure claims the national average is 11.85 child and teenager deaths per year.

the arizona figure claims the national average is 76.87 deaths per year.

edited to finish my thought, because I'm trigger happy tonight

 

[voilsb]

they won't admit numbers for california or new jersey, but for massachussettes they claim the national average is 43.75 deaths per year:

In 1998, the most recent year for which data is available, Massachusetts lost 28 children and teenagers to gun violence. Massachusetts has the lowest firearm death rate for children and teens in the country -- 64% lower than the national average.

ahh, don't you love how they're liberal with their morals *and* their math?

 

[voilsb]

oh, and maryland actually received a full-on A by the brady bunch

 

[clange]

Didnt you guys hear? 20 year old gang members count as 'children' in their stats.

 

[Calamity Jane]

ACK! Tennessee got a D+?!?! Dadgummit, I wanted an F! An F-, at that!

Tennessee maintained its 2000 grade of D+ because it does not have a Child Access Prevention law to hold adults accountable for leaving firearms accessible to children; has no safety design standards for handguns; does not require background checks on private gun sales, including those at gun shows; and forces police to let people carry hidden handguns in public. Tennessee has adequate juvenile possession and sales laws for handguns, but allows children and teens to possess long guns, including assault rifles. In 1998, the most recent year for which data is available, 109 children and teenagers in Tennessee died from gunfire, resulting in a youth firearm death rate 68% higher than the national average.

Tennessee can improve its grade next year by requiring all gun buyers to go through criminal background checks, especially buyers at gun shows. By closing this loophole in its laws, Tennessee will prevent criminals, fugitives from the law, and juveniles from buying guns.

 

[King]

I like this language they use in a lot of their write ups (ie; Calamity Jane's post)................


"forces police to let people carry hidden handguns in public".

"Forces" police to "let"........last time I checked, police merely enforce laws, they don't "let" people do anything. I believe Pendragon pointed that out as well regarding Arizina and it's open carry status.

What I read from LEO here and elsewhere is that they by and large support our right to carry anyway.

 

[JackShandy]

North Carolina gets a straight 'C'...

...same as in 2000. Here's my fav-o-rite part:

North Carolina can improve its grade next year by requiring all gun buyers to go through criminal background checks, especially buyers at gun shows. By closing this loophole in its laws, North Carolina will prevent criminals, fugitives from the law, and juveniles from buying guns.

Don't know about juveniles, but I'm sure criminals and fugitives (last time I checked, fugitives were criminals) will not be able to get their hands on guns any other way. Yes sir, close that "loophole" and all criminal problems will magically disappear!

D@mn 'C' grade: I hate being middle of the pack!

 

[garrettwc]

by El Tejon
Oh, Indiana's only a D- and we have much worse laws than Tejas by Sarah's own standards. I demand a re-grade!

BTW, they say 94 "children" were killed by guns in Indiana. 1. How many guns were prosecuted for their horrific crimes, 2. of those 94 how many were in Indianapolis and Gary combined?

And how many of those 94 were 16-18 yr old(children by Brady definition) gangbangers at a drug deal gone sour.

El Tejon, I see the D- as a challenge. We got work to do.

 

[justinh]

Montana has an F.

 

[justinh]

Montana received a grade of F in 2001, because it is among the worst states in the nation at protecting its children from gun violence. The state has no law prohibiting teens and children from possessing or buying guns;

Didn't think kids could buy guns anywhere.

 

[El Tejon]

justinh, thank goodness we have a federal law that stops kids from buying guns.

garrett, you're right. No good is going to come by complaining that we were cheated by Sarah (hmmm, Indiana taken advantage of--go figure)! This General Assembly session I move for state funing of indoor firing ranges at elementary schools! Teach them safety--do it, for the children! Also I want the repeal of the "Chinese Throwing Star" statute. I get mad everytime I see it in my crim code book.

 

[Monkeyleg]

Wisconsin gets a C+. That will change once we get CCW and eliminate the 48 hour waiting period.

C'mon, Cheeseheads, let's get to work!

 

[garrettwc]

This General Assembly session I move for state funing of indoor firing ranges at elementary schools! Teach them safety--do it, for the children!

Here!! here!!

I used to live down the street from one of the Parks Departments indoor rec centers. It used to have a .22 target range in the basement and the scouts and 4H used to host matches. No more.

The high school had a shooting team complete with Olympic styles .22 rifles and those big padded shooting coats.

Just about every guy had a Buck folder in a pouch on his belt.

Try any of that now and County PD SWAT would get called.

 

[Mark Benningfield]

Oklahoma

Hello All.

RATS!!!!!!:banghead:
D-. Gotta be something we can do about that. I know we can beat Texas at this too.

 

[garrettwc]

Heads up Indiana Folks!!

If either of these get passed we'll move to an A++

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1794

The first one contains a ban on semiautomatic ammunition!

That pretty much covers everything from .22 to 12 guage buck!!

 

[Combat-wombat]

ARRGH!!!! Kali always has to get a bad grade!!! Lets get some republican senators (I do like libertarians much better than republicans, and our whole constitution needs urgent help, but in my opinion the RKBA is im much more danger than the 1st amendment etc. and we can much more easily elect republicans than libertarians) But anyway, lets get some sensible pro-BOR officials in kali and hopefully with some good hard effort we can at least get a "C"! C'mon people, let's have some dignity! Take back the PRK!

 

[glirette]

Texas needs to lighten the training and be more like Florida in what we accept. Texas CHL training is very strict currently as compared to other states.

Next Texas needs to be more like Utah in allowing for guns to be carried in schools.

Texas needs to modify the 30.06 penal code so that we are more like Florida where signs have no legal impact on the CHL.

If some of these steps were followed we would then have an F, I hope we can get an F next year!

 

[Combat-wombat]

Actually, kali actually allows CCW permit holders to carry on school grounds! This is very surprising for the Republik!

 

[Southla1]

"I'm really glad that Louisiana got an F. And I quote, "In 1998, the most recent year for which data is available, 124 children and teenagers in Louisiana died from gunfire." 1998! ***, that's 4 years ago, and I bet if they looked at those numbers it was a lot of gang and drug related violence. Damn the blissninnies."


About 10 years ago there were 53 murders in the Baton Rouge area. Not all of these were firearm realted but something like 90% were. The Baton Rouge Morning Advocate did a 2 or 3 page story on them after the year was over.

This story covered the circumstances of the killings............. a GREAT majority of them were gang and drug related...............like we say down here..........................most of em needed killing.

 

[ahenry]

Texas needs to lighten the training and be more like Florida in what we accept. Texas CHL training is very strict currently as compared to other states.

Didn’t know it was complicated, seemed easy to me. What is Florida’s like? Truth be known, I’d just as soon do away with the licensing thing completely. You breathe, you can carry works for me.

Next Texas needs to be more like Utah in allowing for guns to be carried in schools.

Yeah, I agree. At bare minimum it needs to go back to a more local view on a gun in a school (not referring to just CHL’s). Rural areas used to not mind if you had a gun in the window of your pickup when you drove to school after a morning hunt or whatnot. Time to at least go back to that. However you can carry on school grounds of a school if you have your CHL. I can’t remember the specifics, but its something like if you’re just driving onto the grounds or some such.

Texas needs to modify the 30.06 penal code so that we are more like Florida where signs have no legal impact on the CHL.

I disagree. Property owners need to be able to state what they consider trespass (no shirt, etc). Making a specific sign that is incredibly obvious still allows for the property owner to “govern†his property, yet its not so simple as just a sign like “no guns†which anybody and everybody might put up which would effectively limit the usefulness of a CHL.

[Edited for spelling]

 

[Anthony]

Texas got a "D"?!?!

You can shoot people on your property for "criminal mischief" or for stealing your property, you can carry a fully loaded shotgun or rifle in your car without a permit, carry a handgun concealed with a permit, and can even walk down the street with a fully loaded long arm slung!

What do you have to do to get an "F"???

I want an "F"!!! :banghead:

- Anthony

 

[mjustice]

New York gets a B+. Is anyone surprised?

If I move, I'll make sure I choose a state with a "failing" grade.

How about we give the Brady bunch an F- and move on?

MJ

 

[Leatherneck]

OH, Man: Virginia got a C-. I'm so ashamed...
TC
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