Texas S.W.A.T. is anti

[RandyC]

All the whizz-bang popularity of S.W.A.T. teams and their military strike, forced entries bothers me somewhat.

From what I can see, every little backwater town is scrambling to have their own S.W.A.T. unit. And when you stretch the budget to train guys up to speed you, of course, can't let them just sit there.

I guess my concerns are two-fold: 1) that Americans are going to get comfortable with the idea of police busting down front doors and 2) how many times will these teams hit the wrong address ( as has happened before with deadly results).

There are evil, dangerous people who must be taken down, for sure. But this fascination with heavilly armed no-knock entries still kinda gives me the willies.

 

[c_yeager]

I know we have this long held belief that the "rank and file" is strongly pro-gun, but I cannot help but wonder at the fact that the fast majority of organized bodies of police tend to lean pretty heavily to the anti-side. I dont know how much longer we are supposed to take this percieved support from law enforcement for granted.

 

[notbubba]

I didn't see the show with the AK.

The shows I've seen at least hand good gun handling.

Fingers off the trigger, not sweeping each other & watching out for cross fire.

I liked the show where the one guy went to a yoga class and the instructor was spouting a bunch of non-violence “if you are nice to them they will be nice to you” crap.

 

[buzz_knox]

I know we have this long held belief that the "rank and file" is strongly pro-gun, but I cannot help but wonder at the fact that the fast majority of organized bodies of police tend to lean pretty heavily to the anti-side. I dont know how much longer we are supposed to take this percieved support from law enforcement for granted.

The higher ups in big cities tend to be anti-gun. So, they are unlikely to approve a show that goes the other way, or authorize officers who will say things contrary to the party line to be on the show.

As for the perceived support, we'll get the same level of support that people who believe in doctrine "X" get when the gov't says they are violating the law. Even those cops who also believe in doctrine "X" will enforce the "law" because that's the job. Cops who are pro-life still protect Planned Parenthood, cops who don't like other races still protect civil rights marches, and cops who are pro-2nd Amendment still enforce gun bans and confiscations.

 

[rickster]

(BTW, who pays for all the smashed front doors, broken windows, trashed furniture, etc?? Just a side thought.)

Better have good homeowners or renters insurance because that's who will be paying for it!

 

[gunsmith]

I liked seeing the EO Tech sights on the swat teams AR's

Because I have one on mine , but really I had to turn the channel.
I'm not going to watch obvious anti gun lies.
It's true though about cops not knowing much about guns and the 2nd amendent. My late father was in LE and didn't have a clue about safety but was pro gun in general (only for Irish Catholics though, not the heathens).
My brother is a NY cop and was alarmed when I told him about AK and AR pistols
after the FiveseveN hype which he believed.
He comes to me for firearms advice... (I come here )

 

[AK-74me]

I didn't see the show with the AK.

The shows I've seen at least hand good gun handling.

Fingers off the trigger, not sweeping each other & watching out for cross fire.

I liked the show where the one guy went to a yoga class and the instructor was spouting a bunch of non-violence “if you are nice to them they will be nice to you” crap.

That was Dallas SWAT on A&E, Texas SWAT is the one on CourtTV, I think it was the first or second episode where the AK references were made.

 

[Geno]

I saw one VERY similar...NRA set them straight

Have them come over to your farm. Set up a target against a SOLID CONCRETE wall, not loose standing blocks. Concrete is strengthened by compression. When asked why they didn't shoot a wall, not loose blocks, they were finally FORCED to admit that a assault rifle will NOT mow down concrete walls, and that their entire program was a sham! The same with why watermelons used to show how the projectile would "blow you up", as opposed to using a pig carcass to show realistic ballistics. It's all anti-hype. Problem is the sheeple buy into it, and willing give up their rights to own reasonable firearms. Mix one part each of lies, distortion, innuendo, hype, terror of the "killer guns" added to a mix of media and political "we're-here-to-help-you" makes for a great bowl of crap soup. Heat and serve. Problem is, no matter how you season it, no matter how you serve it, hot or chilled, it's still a great-big, bowl of crap soup.

Doc2005

 

[buzz_knox]

Have them come over to your farm. Set up a target against a SOLID CONCRETE wall, not loose standing blocks. Concrete is strengthened by compression. When asked why they didn't shoot a wall, not loose blocks, they were finally FORCED to admit that a assault rifle will NOT mow down concrete walls, and that their entire program was a sham!

Doc2005

I believe in that situation, the cop shot the ground with the assault rifle and then shot the concrete block with a different weapon. When the show aired, NBC spliced the two together to show the rifle being fired and the block shattering. The police dept. didn't come forward to correct the error until the NRA called them on it.

 

[beaucoup ammo]

I Think L.E. As A Whole

remembers the North Hollywood shootout and what AK's did there. LAPD was caught with their pants down and the anti-AK attitude by LEO's hasn't let up since.

More important, if you assume all Big Media Owners are anti 2nd, you're operating under a gross misconception. The majority, yes...I agree with that after 35 years in the business. But not all..it just ain't so. I had the pleasure of shooting wild hogs from the patio of one of these so called "Big Media Owners' " country place, high on the cliffs of the Guadalupe River. We were picking them off at 100+yds down on the banks.

His passionate Pro gun stance is never preached on any of the over 1,000 radio and TV stations, newspapers and independent production companies he owns. The subject is treated with an even hand.

While the majority of Big Money Media do "tend" to be anti 2nd, take heart..not all take that stance.

Take Care

 

[Creeping Incrementalism]

When cops would show up at our bowling pin shoots they were almost invariably out shot by the civilians.

Do bowling alleys give away old bowling pins? I've always wondered why you see or hear about people shooting at them so often.