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Discussion in 'Gunsmithing and Repairs' started by Catshooter, Mar 4, 2006.

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  1. Catshooter

    Catshooter Member

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    A few months ago I asked in a thread I posted for Tuners help to set up my 1911 so that it would be it's own take down tool. Well, Tuner was still moving and so you kindly answered my thread with the info I needed.

    So,with your help, I got my SA 1911 set up the way I wanted it.

    Now, here's what I can do. I started with this first image, and then using only the tools you see in the first pic, (and my fingers) I ended up with the second pic.

    Pretty cool, I think.

    Thanks again. :) :) :)


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  2. Old Fuff

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    I can do that too, but Tuner hasn't taught me how to put one back together... All of my 1911 pistols are in bags and boxes... :neener:

    Now see if he'll tell you how to finish, and disassemble the magazine, using nothing but what you have there... :evil: (Of course if he doesn't I will, he may still be busy).:)

    Last but not least, how many of the new "modern" pistols can you DETAIL strip without any tools???
     
  3. txgho1911

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    So what is the best item to use as a screw driver?

    Pin pusher I would guess is the extractor.
     
  4. Highland Ranger

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    I think the lip on the mag is supposed to be the screwdriver . . .
     
  5. Catshooter

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    Oh Old Fuff I didn't think about taken' apart the mag! I think anything that'll fit in the mag body to push the follower down and the firing pin to lock the spring down?

    I love the way you can do this! I keep thinking about all the customizing I could do to this piece, and then I go shoot it. You know, it does everything I want it to, just as it is. I did replace the two-piece barrel with a brand new GI barrel I picked up at the show for $45. By happy coindcendence the bushing is just a little bit tight on the barrel. This thing shoots like a dream.

    First 1911 I've shot in like 20 years, and it put two mags in two inches at 25 yards.

    I just bet all your's are in boxes!

    txgho,

    I use only seven round mags with the welded, thick floorplates (USGI) and I opened up the grip screws with a cutter I made at Old Fuff's direction. So you use the tip of the mag as a screwdriver. Works great!


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  6. Old Fuff

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    Use the recoil spring plug to push the follower down, and as you said, lock the spring in place with the firing pin or hammer strut.

    Two-inch groups at 25 yards isn't too shabby.... It's almost as good as one of Tuner's worn-out range beaters... :neener: :D

    As you know, I taught Johnny Browning almost everything I know. He'd never got the job done designing that pistol back in nineteen--eleven if'n I hadn't helped him... :rolleyes: ;)
     
  7. Catshooter

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    Oh Fuff,

    Now I am crushed. Tuner said that it him who helped out JMB! He said you helped that other guy, what was his name, worked on a sixgun . . . oh yea, that Colt fella!

    You're not tellin' me he lied, are ya?


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  8. Catshooter

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    Oh Fuff,

    Now I am crushed. Tuner said that it was him who helped out JMB! He said you helped that other guy, what was his name, worked on a sixgun . . . oh yea, that Colt fella!

    You're not tellin' me he lied, are ya?


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  9. Old Fuff

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    Don't you believe it!!! That Tuner was just a wet-behind-the-ears kid. Didn't know nothing. He kept telling Johnny Browing something about making a dimple in this or that... :D

    As for Sammy Colt... He didn't know nothing either... :uhoh:

    I kept telling him that we needed to drill the chambers all of the way through the cylinder, but he said, "what for???" :neener:
     
  10. Catshooter

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    Is it true Fuff that you had to go to Tuner's house and take his Dremel away from him to keep him from throating 1911's with it? He says no, you never. (I've been waitin' fer him to show up, maybe this'll drag him into the thread.):what: :D


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  11. Phyphor

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    Dremel?

    Hell, I heard it was a punch and a big hammer, plus lots of plain 'ol muleheadedness........

    :neener:
     
  12. ulflyer

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    Tuner's Sign

    Was over at Tuner's place recently and he has a sign over the door:

    "If she ain't got a Dimple, Don't bring her in"

    I'm pretty sure he ment mag followers..........evil:
     
  13. Old Fuff

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    Tuner has a system...;)

    When somebody comes in with an absolutely like-new 1916 USGI 1911 or a similar condition Remington-Rand, he quick-like switches in an old barrel from one of his range beaters. Then he ramps the barrel until he can see rifling. At this point he tells the owner that the pistol is so bad off he can't save it no-a-how.

    Then he works up a trade and the lucky former owner leave with a genuine nickel plated .32 top-break with pearl grips... :neener: :evil: :D

    Tuner doesn't need one of them Dremel tools, cuz he has a bench grinder... :eek:
     
  14. 1911Tuner

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    Well Well Well

    Woke up with my ears on fire...Now I know why!:scrutiny:

    I remember back when Mr. Moses was (That's what we called him when he was workin' on that new Army Automatic) anyway...that thing was givin' him a fit when the magazine got down to the last round and I told him that if he'd put knot or somethin' on the top of that follower and up the spring to about 10 or 11 pounds, it'd be okay. Well...After he got through pullin' out the rest of his hair(He had a full head of hair when he started on it)...he gave in...went out to the shop and told one of the machinists to make him up a fixture that'd let him use a punch on the underside of that thing...got him a punch and a hammer...and the rest is history.

    Then he came and asked me if I thought we oughta have'em polish up that ramp nice and slick, and I told him NOOO, Mr. Moses! If we make that ramp too slick, the bullet nose might slide clean off of it before the extractor has time to grab it, and it'll jam up. He looked a little puzzled, and I told him that the round's gotta have a little friction at the front to keep the back from gettin' ahead of the breechface. So, we didn't polish it.

    Then one day, he came rushin' in all excited-like and was hollerin' that he figgered out that the magazine would hold eight rounds and all we had to do was shorten up the follower and cut a couple coils off the spring...:rolleyes:
    Took me 3 days to talk him outta that one!

    Well...After it was all finished and the army had said that it'd do for what they needed, he told me that he had to figger a way to give me credit for helpin' him get it to work. Told me that if I'd kept my mouth shut, they'd have gone with the Savage automatic...so that's the story of how the Model of 1911 US Army came to be known as "Old Bigmouth."
     
  15. Old Fuff

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    And here I thought that was someone we know on another forum... :evil:
     
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    Fuff...that was bad. BAAAAAAAAAD! Go sit in your cave for 24 hours...:D

    On magazine disassembly...

    Load 3 rounds and insert a suitable pin through the second witness hole. The firing pin or hammer strut will do. Shake the rounds out. Bump the top of the mag on a wood surface a few times to loosen the follower, and lift it out. Release the spring with your thumb over the top of the mag.

    To reasemble...

    Install the spring. It goes in one way. Be sure that it's correctly oriented.
    Work it in and compress it with your thumb until you can load a round directly onto the top coil. Load the other two rounds. Insert the pin through the second witness hole again. Shake the rounds out. Install the follower, and push on it until you hear/feel it snap into place. Place the pad of your thumb over the top of the mag and pull the pin. It won't hurt much.:D Look at the top coil of the follower to be sure that it went under the ollower correctly...behind the slidestop elevator shelf.
     
  17. Jammer Six

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    I turn my back for just a few short hours... :rolleyes:

    What about the Ma Deuce?

    Which one of your jokers decided it should have butterflies instead of a real trigger?

    I have a bone to pick with you, whoever it was...

    Fess up, now.
     
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    Ma Deuce's Butterflies

    It was the same guy who tried to talk Old Moses into puttin' a duck's butt on the 1911. I was on vacation at the time...and by the time I got back to work, it was a done deal.
     
  19. Catshooter

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    I don't have to post anymore on this thread, it's growed all on it's own!

    You guys are a treasure.:) :neener: :what:


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  20. Jammer Six

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    And who's the "genius" who decided the BAR should be so damn HEAVY? :scrutiny:

    That thing would have been great at like half the weight...

    Finally, the truth is coming out...
     
  21. Old Fuff

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    Jammer, you is such a wimp... :neener:

    Ol' John put a lot of iron in the BAR to help control the recoil. Now I suppose some 1911 clone maker will come out with a BAR "Super Micro Ultra Compact Professional IV model made out of plastic and aluminum... :eek: :D
     
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    Heavy? What are ya...A wimp?

    Why...in my day, we used ta pull 105s behind us.

    :cool:
     
  23. Catshooter

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    During the war, (WW 2 for you pups) the Brits had a naval vessel with a *24* inch cannon. My dad saw it fired three rounds.

    I bench press one (just one, I am 52 after all) rep each morning with one of those little shells.

    You guys are so soft.


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  24. Phyphor

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    Pfft.

    You didn't bench-press the whole battleship? What a wuss! :neener:
     
  25. Catshooter

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    No. The damn British scrapped it after the war. Otherwise . . . :neener:
     
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