That 10 inch paper plate.

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Summer is almost here, so let's fold the legs on the bi-pod and pick up our rifles. Now I can post the decades of targets qualifying on the USMC Course of fire, but is that really relevant? This is the chance for Y'all to post your 200 yard ten hole Ten Inch Paper Plate Targets shot from the standing position with the rifle you will be harvesting game animals with this November.

Thanks for the time & effort in advance.
 
Oh lets be honest, every USMC swinging dinky since the 50's had to qualify while shooting from the standing position at 200 yards. Wholes at ten inches from center wouldn't have gotten the job done. This ain't something monumental in the halls of marksmanship. But if you can't place ten aimed shot's within ten inches while standing at 200 yards, well perhaps you should rethink taking a 200 yard shot offhand come this November?????
 
I'll play, if I can get out to a 200yd range before this thread devolves into a sword fight.

At the risk of getting flamed, my reply deleted or the whole thing shut down, I want to say this WILL devolve into a sword fight.

When I was shooting Highpower, I saw and fired lots and lots of 200 yard offhand targets. A 10", 10 shot group is a perfect score. Can't say I ever witnessed a 100 shot offhand. Shot a couple of 98s myself, which is 10 shots in 13".

Anyway, perhaps I'll try my hand at some 10" paper plates at 100 yards to tune up for the fall.

(Side note, my club used to have a steel plate at 200 yards that was about 12" across. It was about 50% safe from offhand fire directed it's way...)
 
I occasionally practice this on a 10” steel plate at 200 with a 7.62x39 AR15. I know I cannot do 10/10 shots at 200 but I’ll try anyway. I’ll be happy with 5 or more hits, 7 or 8 will be a real good day. I’m afraid I’m an unimpressive offhand shooter.

I have never and will never shoot at a game animal offhand at that range. That’s just stupid. I have done it on coyotes.
 
I know I can keep 10 of 10 on a paper plate offhand at 100 yards. Never tired at 200, but just for fun will next time I get to the range. That will be about a week though.

But in a hunting situation I simply don't take offhand shots at any range unless there is no other option. Most of the time some sort of improvised rest is available and at ranges beyond 50 yards there is almost always time to take advantage of them. All of my off hand shots have been at close ranges when animals were spotted unexpectedly. Otherwise I use a tree trunk, branch, pack or shooting sticks. I do practice using such improvised rests and have been able to keep shots inside a 10" paper plate out to 600 yards. Given the option I'll take an extra 10 seconds before firing to get a steady rest and shoot 2"-3" groups at 200 yards vs 10" groups off hand.
 
I think that the longest off hand shot at game that I ever attempted was 150 yds....and placement was perfect. I much prefer shooting from a rest at all ranges and especially anything beyond 75 yards. If game is beyond very close there is almost always time to take a rest or go to sitting.
 
I believe offhand 22 rim fire silhouette shooting is great practice for deer hunting. in our woods 25 yards would be a long shot.
Ant kind of silhouette shooting helps. Some of the best shots that I have seen was at a muzzle loader shoot at our local club. Some of those guys were better offhand than many of the weekend warriors shooting from the bench with bags. Back in the good old days hunting squirrels with a 22 was my therapy for offhand. 8 or 10 trips to the hickory flats had me ready for deer season.
 
I've lost offhand steadiness over the past 10 years, more pronounced in the past 5. In the past I've won lots of offhand turkey shoots out to 100 yards offhand, but find that the Club's 8" gong at 200 meters is about a 3/5 proposition most days. Shooting at game is a different story, however. I tend to shoot much better and am steadier, but regardless of movement, more often fire at the right time, not rushing the shot. Just for giggles, I'll try the paper plate test the next time I fire at 200 yards.
 
Summer is almost here, so let's fold the legs on the bi-pod and pick up our rifles. Now I can post the decades of targets qualifying on the USMC Course of fire, but is that really relevant? This is the chance for Y'all to post your 200 yard ten hole Ten Inch Paper Plate Targets shot from the standing position with the rifle you will be harvesting game animals with this November.

Thanks for the time & effort in advance.
I cheat as much as possible when I take a shot at live game.
Are slings legal?
 
But if you can't place ten aimed shot's within ten inches while standing at 200 yards, well perhaps you should rethink taking a 200 yard shot offhand come this November?????

I ONLY share this sentiment if the hunting shots are to be taken off hand. The test should be easier than the practice, meaning the shots on game should be easier than practiced during the off-season, but I know a lot of hunters, and don’t many guys who take shots even at 100yrds offhand standing, and haven’t for a long time. Most don’t take ANY hunting shots on deer without support.

Oh lets be honest, every USMC swinging dinky since the 50's had to qualify while shooting from the standing position at 200 yards. Wholes at ten inches from center wouldn't have gotten the job done.

10” from center is a 20” group. The center circle on the Able and Dog targets are 12”, not 10”, and the first ring on the Able is 24”. The shoulders on the Dog target are 26” wide.

Indeed, “Holes at ten inches from center” would score 80% on that course of fire.

So hitting 10 for 10 on the 10” plate is better than a perfect score on the 200yrds standing stage of Table 1 - especially considering a hit/miss scoring game, vs. a 0-5 scoring target.
 
My standard for deer hunting accuracy is whatever range I can confidently put a shot into a 4" circle with whatever gun and shooting position. Offhand that means about 50 yards for me.
 
I'll play. I'm bedding the action of my 8400 WSM 6.5 PRC today/tomorrow and finalizing a handload this weekend so I'll use that rifle. I'm testing one of the new Zeiss V4 4-16x44mm scopes and will be using a sling since that's how I hunt so no excuses. My idea of a good practical test would be four rounds at an 8" target at 100 yards standing offhand, three rounds kneeling or sitting at 200 yards followed by three rounds prone at 300 yards. It would be up to the shooter to shoot the 200 and 300 yard targets based on how they hunt i.e. shooting sticks, bipod, backpack, sling etc. We should be testing our equipment and ourselves regularly, not to show off on a forum but because we owe it to the animal.
 
Weather conditions here in North Florida are not going to be conducive to me hitting the range for a little while, but I will post up a pic or two of my next standing ten inch paper plate session. Maybe I'm getting worst CRS than I think, but I'm pretty sure that the 200 yard Short Range Military "Target, Rifle, Competition, Short Range" has a 3 inch X, a 7 inch 10 ring, and a 13 inch 9 ring. So a 10 inch paper plate is a bit larger than the TEN RING and is commonly equated to the kill zone of an average deer sized game animal.

http://www.bcsingleshot.com/NRA_HP_Targets.pdf

Now to really test my CRS: (I may need a little assistance from some of well matured Marine Riflemen out there)

200 yards standing 5 rounds, 200 yards kneeling 5 rounds, 200 yards sitting 5 rounds, 200 yards sitting rapid fire 10 rounds.
300 yards sitting 5 rounds, 300 yards prone rapid fire 10 rounds.
500 yards prone 10 rounds.

250 was a perfect score.
Marksmen 190-209
Sharp 210-219
Expert 220-250

My mind is a terrible thing to rely upon as I age. Anyone recall a course of fire like this from behind their M14?
 
The last long range shot I made was a cow elk at a little over 300 yds, on my ass in the snow and used my knees for a rest...is that off hand? No mechanical rest.
Oh well.....JD

I believe that sitting on your rump with your knees as a rest is pretty close to the sitting position. Standing on your own two feet with a sling assist probably is a better definition of Offhand. JMHO. But I'll bet the USMC & for sure the NRA can clarify any discrepancy about shooting positions.
 
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