The .250-3000 Cartridge

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GarMan

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Hello!

Is this classic cartridge pretty much obsolete? I have been looking around for a Model 99, or maybe a newer bolt offering from Savage. However, trying to find ammo online is getting hard. According to Midway USA, Winchester discontinued the 100 gr. Silvertip? This is discouraging.

Anybody have any insights? Thanks!
 
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I have a model 99 and a new model 14 classic in this caliber. I have had no problem getting .250 savage in remington 80 and 100 gr. I have also had good luck getting brass to reload.
 
Also known as the Savage 250, it is alive and well in the handloading reloading community.

Davidson's Gun Genie shows the Savage Model 14 American Classic in 250 Savage, bolt action rifle IN STOCK.

That and a LEE LOADER couple boxes primers and bullets from Bass Pro a pound of powder and your good to go.

Obsolesence is a dirty word to reloaders.
 
As the others have said,"buy a press and reload". The suggestion of a Lee Loader is an excelent idea. It loads fine ammo but it is damn slow. However I doubt that you would shoot more than a bx/20 at a time. Give it some thought. :)
 
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It is pretty obsolete and it is pretty awesome still to this day.
There is a cult following of the .250 Savage so it is unlikely to ever go away for good.

A custom Ruger .250 Savage caliber Number 1 rifle was recently offered in a limited production run.
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/06/27/ruger-no-1-stainless-light-sporter-250-savage/

Years ago I owned a Savage 99A lever action in .250 caliber.
In one of those fits of lunacy all men experience at one time or another I sold it.
One of my great firearm related regrets.
 
Update: I just checked the Lee Precsion online catalog and the 250 Sav is no longer listed. However Gunbroker does show a Lee Loader in 250-3000 for sale at 49.95 (NOS) if anyone is interested.
 
Call LEE direct.
The .250 Savage dies should still be in their limited production line up.
They will take your order and payment info over the phone and bill & ship the next time a run of the dies are made.

I'm guessing they sell no more than 500 of these die sets every year.
 
I have never considered the reload route, but I guess that might be the way to go? Or, buy up on ammo when Remington and Winchester put out seasonal runs?
 
A Ruger #1 in .250 Sav.? Now that would be a sweet rifle. It would work for everything from woodchucks to whitetails. In a rifle that weighed that much, it would recoil like a .22.
 
I have a 250 Sav in a Mod 99 and it is a great shooter. Mine was made in 1946. I have not had problems finding ammo in the gun shops. Department stores are another thing altogether.
 
I saw that #1 in 250 Savage. That looks hella sweet, and classy. I wonder how much they would go for?
 
250 Savage was a popular cartridge for deer and varmint hunters in its day. But in 1950's, Winchester introduced their 243 cartridge with a huge wave of marketing. 243 has been popular ever since while the 250 has faded. Unfair but true.

Roy Chapman Andrews was a famous scientist/ hunter/ taxidermist of yesteryear. He probably killed the widest diversity of game with his 250-3000 Savage than anyone before or since. Roy found this cartridge entirely adequate for animals weighing in at 500 lbs or less including European red stag and African antelope. His long list of one shot kills is a stelluar testimony to the effectiveness 250 Savage and well placed shots.

300 Savage has suffered from the enormous popularity of .308 cartridge. But out to about 175 yards or so, their performance on big game is identical.

TR
 
Supertac45, it was not the question of finding dies for the 250-3000. The question was finding a Lee Loader in this caliber, aka known commonly as the "whack a mole" loading kit.
 
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Ammo still made by Remington. You can still find Sav 250 ammo at Gun shows. That is if you have any at your location,

I have found Win Silver-Tips at Gun Shows. Hard to find but when you do, snatch them up!

The Sav 99 is hard to find (in some parts of the country.) If you find one and you`ve got the cash, buy it.

An American icon! Those who own them know what I mean. :)
 
In the '30s, My Dad killed a tiger in Sumatra with a .250-3000. He hunted big game in Ethiopia in the '40s (he was in the oil exploration business.) He killed lion, cheetah, a lesser Kudu good enough for Roland Ward, and a host of other plains game. He always said the 87 grain bullet was better than the 100 grain -- probably because the barrel was rifled to optimize the 87 grain bullet and the twist was a bit slow for the heavier bullet.
 
Vern, a Tiger?! That is insane! And with the 87 grain bullet?! HAHA.
 
Vern, a Tiger?! That is insane! And with the 87 grain bullet?! HAHA.
I never said he was sane.

But his story went like this; he had hired a Malay guide who built a shooting platform in a teak tree, then staked a goat out near the foot of the tree.

"And just before he climbed down, he gave me a hard look and said something that was like a cold hand closing around my heart, 'Many time, Tuan, you think you hear the tiger. But when the tiger come, you know.'"

He would always point to the old Savage that hung over the door. "I had my old .250-3000, with a flashlight taped to the barrel, and I sat there all night, eat up by bugs."

"I couldn't relax. The bugs were all over me, and I was sweating like a pig. Every five minutes or so, I'd suddenly get cold chills and start to imagine a tiger coming up from behind me.

"It was like that all night. And then, about three o'clock in the morning, it got suddenly quiet. Even the bugs stopped humming. I couldn't see a damned thing, but I switched on my flashlight, and there he was, looking up at me, his eyes glowing like lanterns."

Nearly 40 years later, I woke up in a cold sweat -- and ordered my FO to shoot the defensive concentrations on my command. I alerted my platoons and ordered my OPs to blow their claymores and come into the permimeter at a run -- with them telling me there was nothing out there. When the defensive concentrations hit, I had everyone open fire.

The next morning, we had over 30 NVA dead in the single strand of concertina I had around the company. One sapper squad had got through the wire and were lying dead in front of the 2nd platoon.

When my brigade commander asked me how I knew the NVA were there, all I could say was, "The bugs stopped humming."
 
Obsolete? Heck, no! Not common anymore, sure, but obsolete? What's obsolete about it? It compares very favorably to the 6mm Remington, .257 Roberts, oh, and that little .243 Winchester, too. They're all comparable rounds, that do about the same thing on game, shooting pills about the same size out of cartridges about the same size at about the same velocity. .25-06 is a bit taller, but I doubt any deer walking would care or notice the difference.

Not popular does not equal obsolete. Far from it.

If a guy wants to be able to buy off-the-shelf ammo anywhere he goes, he'll go get a .243, but if he likes a particular rifle, he'll take it in whatever of those .24 or .25 caliber cartridges it happens to be in, and learn to load for it, and do just as well when he gets out hunting.
 
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