The epitome of model 98 Mauser design. The one that started WW 2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ahQV38niY0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ahQV38niY0&feature=related
The beauty of Hitler's favorite rifle, K 98 !
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TwoWheelFiend
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I dont think a rifle started WWII
But someone oughta teach that guy how to shoot a rifle with a sling
But someone oughta teach that guy how to shoot a rifle with a sling
"But someone oughta teach that guy how to shoot a rifle with a sling "
Yeah maybe so. I also see some other things they could be doing better in their technique. At least they aren't on a bench & use open sights! I also notice hearing protection and eye protection. Overall they look like good guys that would be cool to share a range with.
I'd hate to see a youtube video of me!
Yeah maybe so. I also see some other things they could be doing better in their technique. At least they aren't on a bench & use open sights! I also notice hearing protection and eye protection. Overall they look like good guys that would be cool to share a range with.
I'd hate to see a youtube video of me!
ExAgoradzo
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This thread got highjacked. It wasn't at all about who or what started the War, it was about some guys at the range.
All that I saw wrong with the video is that we couldn't see what they did. For all we know the bullets missed the targets by a mile.
Now, what I want to see is a better description of the guns and why they were so altogether great.
He does need to learn how to use a sling!
All that I saw wrong with the video is that we couldn't see what they did. For all we know the bullets missed the targets by a mile.
Now, what I want to see is a better description of the guns and why they were so altogether great.
He does need to learn how to use a sling
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caribou
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Funny thing I read long agao wa sthat Hitler disapproved of the initial Sturmgewhers claiming he hated Carbines from his experiances of WWI where the large flash and shorter barrels marked the artillery and such that carried them a were identifyed as such and not fighting infantry...something like that gave him a dislike for shorter rifles............just an opinion that carried alotta weight.........weird?
But later he found both the K98k and the Stg-44 quite to his likeing.
I have a decent 'russian capture" with a nearly, though not quite smooth bore, one I bought in crap barrel condion, cleaned and was impressed with what it could do with the then plentyfull and CHEAP Turk 8mm, and betwen me, and my two sons, we burned about 8,000rounds through it and its still a spot on shot, but I just aint got much ammo.........trey a case of Romainian, got no good shots past 100 yards, went back to Turk, "Bingo" spot on........maybe Ill swap off the barrel sometime.
As well I have 2 others matching, and both in 80% - very good condition I picked up in the late 80's for 300$
But later he found both the K98k and the Stg-44 quite to his likeing.
I have a decent 'russian capture" with a nearly, though not quite smooth bore, one I bought in crap barrel condion, cleaned and was impressed with what it could do with the then plentyfull and CHEAP Turk 8mm, and betwen me, and my two sons, we burned about 8,000rounds through it and its still a spot on shot, but I just aint got much ammo.........trey a case of Romainian, got no good shots past 100 yards, went back to Turk, "Bingo" spot on........maybe Ill swap off the barrel sometime.
As well I have 2 others matching, and both in 80% - very good condition I picked up in the late 80's for 300$
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LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
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The K98k is indeed a beautiful rifle. It's a shame that it was stigmatized due to what had transpired during World War II. If I found one, for the right price, I'd pick one up (providing I had the funds).
1911Tuner
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Yep...and as for the weapon that struck the first blow...that was probably a JU87 "Stukka" dive bomber. Flying artillery.
And the Mauser 98K was a fine rifle. As a battle rifle of the turnbolt persuasion, the SMLE was better.
madcratebuilder
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Very good point sir. I refrained from buying any axis power fire arms for many years. I made the mistake of buying a Yugo M48 and it's been down hill from there. Eight and counting. Found a really nice Yugo Mod98/48. Now I see why the usa.gov had to pay royalties to Germany when they produced the M1903. Pretty blatant copy.
beatledog7
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Some day I'm gonna find a pristine K98 action and build a dangerous game rifle around it. No lingering "Nazi" stigma for me.
Heck, I drive a car made by a corporation that used to build engines for German warplanes (during both world wars). I even have friends now who live north of the Mason-Dixon Line.
Heck, I drive a car made by a corporation that used to build engines for German warplanes (during both world wars). I even have friends now who live north of the Mason-Dixon Line.
Sav .250
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No doubt about it, the Mauser 98 action was a superior creation.
Steve in PA
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I have a K98 and it's a great shooting rifle.
For those saying they would never own one because of Hilter and WWII, I guess you will be turning in all your evil black AR's due to the Beltway Sniper, etc?? While not a war, it did put those rifls in the evil light.
For those saying they would never own one because of Hilter and WWII, I guess you will be turning in all your evil black AR's due to the Beltway Sniper, etc?? While not a war, it did put those rifls in the evil light.
KodiakBeer
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Someone ought to teach both of those guys how to shoot a bolt action rifle. Each of them are breaking the stock and cheek weld after each shot. Some Feldwebel would have them both for breakfast and send them back to boot camp.
Rail Driver
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If I don't break stock/cheek weld when I work the bolt on my mosin, it hits me in the nose.
I haven't tried a K98, but I'd like one. They're very nice looking guns.
JDBoardman
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Actually, the only thing we paid Mauser royalties on for the 1903 Springfield was the clip slot and stripper clip. There are enough differences in the action design that it did not infringe on the Mauser design patents.
KodiakBeer
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Then change your stance. You're nosing forward onto the stock as if you had a scoped rifle. Remember too, that these rifles were designed for shooters wearing a heavy wool jacket over several layers of under clothing. Still, even with a tee shirt you can pull your face back and still have a clear view down the sights.
Rail Driver
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I think that's the main thing. It also doesn't help that most of the shooting I've done in my life has been on an AR-15 platform. I'm used to choking up on the gun, with or without a scope. Practice will help though, thanks for the tip.
KodiakBeer
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It's easier than you think. I suspect most problems are because so many people shoot from a bench rest. That kind of makes you want to lean forward into the gun.
When you stand up on your hind legs, your cheek falls more naturally into the correct position. If you think about, there were no bench rests in a battle. You stood, kneeled or lay prone. In any of those positions, your beak will be an inch or more behind the terminus of the bolt.
When you stand up on your hind legs, your cheek falls more naturally into the correct position. If you think about, there were no bench rests in a battle. You stood, kneeled or lay prone. In any of those positions, your beak will be an inch or more behind the terminus of the bolt.
ApacheCoTodd
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So anyhow... Love the hats! Reading the comments - I wonder where he scored the German surplus 8mm?
ExAgoradzo,
Take this in the spirit it is meant, as a critique as a way to improve. It is not meant to criticize or bash.
Here is where they could improve:
Dismounting of rifle as mentioned. If you mark the stock with painter's masking tape you can see where the bolt ends & face begins. I don't recommend an interference fit in this department. The tape will let you see where you are in positions. On a couple of rifle I am farther away than I think I am. I think it is just a very normal human reaction to not want to get hit in the face.
I would also say guy standing had finger on trigger too early even as he started slipping & looked down. Maybe he got off of the trigger & camera/lighting don't show it.
Both grip stocks with weak hand. Neither has good bone support.
Guy kneeling has 'ball' of elbow on 'ball' of knee.
He also is shooting from a live toe and could get more stable putting his toe inboard and sitting on side of his foot. Live toe is better if you have to shoot and move.
But like I said kudos to them on being out there. In their other videos they seem to be good guys as well.
Take this in the spirit it is meant, as a critique as a way to improve. It is not meant to criticize or bash.
Here is where they could improve:
Dismounting of rifle as mentioned. If you mark the stock with painter's masking tape you can see where the bolt ends & face begins. I don't recommend an interference fit in this department. The tape will let you see where you are in positions. On a couple of rifle I am farther away than I think I am. I think it is just a very normal human reaction to not want to get hit in the face.
I would also say guy standing had finger on trigger too early even as he started slipping & looked down. Maybe he got off of the trigger & camera/lighting don't show it.
Both grip stocks with weak hand. Neither has good bone support.
Guy kneeling has 'ball' of elbow on 'ball' of knee.
He also is shooting from a live toe and could get more stable putting his toe inboard and sitting on side of his foot. Live toe is better if you have to shoot and move.
But like I said kudos to them on being out there. In their other videos they seem to be good guys as well.
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