The Best Mosin Nagant?

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I wouldn't be interested in purchasing with the intent to re-sell, just avoid the hassle and expense of transfers. However, given the volume of purchasing I do, it's probably easier to just cough up the transfer fee rather than get a C&R license.
 
The Finn M39 is the best Mosin Nagant. Overall, the Finn Mosin Nagants are more accurate than all of the others. I have a M39 that shoots 1/2 inch groups all day long. It has a Darrell scout mounted scope. Old eyes. I also have a Finn 1937 Izzy 91/30 that will do one inch groups, along with a Finn 1943 91/30 with a Tikka barrel that will do the same. I also have a Remington M91 that will shoot under 2 in groups. One thing to remember, to shoot that accurate you need alot of practice....chris3
 
As for the nicer MN 44s, the experienced owners I know always prefer the quality of the Polish or Hungarians. The only attractive 44s at Memphis area gun shows are almost always Polish.

My friend brought his beautiful Hungarian to the river bank today, and while standing placed two shots into a 2" group on a feral pumpkin from about 75 yards.
Not bad while standing, using just arms? And he used the same surplus Bulgarian ammo which made 6" groups from just 50 yards in my two common Russian 44s, from a bench rest. The Hungarian is so much better, and with No bench rest etc.
 
I have 3 m44's and 1 91/30, it's not a mosin if it's over 120 bucks and doesn't have a bayonet...but seriously they are some of my favorite rifles (and I own some much more expensive ones.) would never tell someone not to buy one.
 
i have a few myself. i like my M44 for its versatility. it will go out to however far you want, its short, it makes great fire balls, you can kick someones teeth out with the butt stock, and stab someone with the bayonet.

i have a 91/30, but its in rough shape in comparison. my m44 broke the trigger spring though :cuss:

now i gotta fix that- and the 91/30 you practically have to kick the ****ing bolt open, but thats pretty 91/30 standard :D
 
Sportsmans Den in Shelby Ohio has 91/30s for <$100. Nice ones too, imports by R-Guns.

I looked at a bunch and the barrels were all in good shape, the staff is helpful. I bought mine there and its probably my favorite thing ever.
 
You guys near Clarkesville, TN can sometimes find fresh, gleaming 91/30s (coated in cosmoline), lying in a crate at TN Gun Country.

The gun shop is a mile south of the main gate at Ft. Campbell.
 
Has anyone every cut the wood off the of the stock that is covering the barrel? I removed the stock yesturday and clean all the cosmoline off of everything but the stock is sorta roached. Since its a good shooter and not a collector item I might just sand the stock, stain and then clear coat it.
 
I've decided on a Finnish Mosin. Now, I have a question to pose regarding them: Which Finnish Mosin is more likely to give me the best accuracy... a Finn that was made in the 40's that's in excellent condition or an unissued, late 60's Finn that was never fired and is, more or less, new.
 
The Finns made a great rifle based on the Russians' Mosin-Nagant called the M38. A Finnish sniper nicknamed "The White Death" used the M38 against invading Russians in the 1930s, allegedly claiming hundreds of kills.
 
Not to cast disparaging comments on Simo's work, but he did it against poorly trained conscripts.

As for the Mosin, meh. I have experience with one M44, and other than being cheap I could find no redeeming features. Crappy stock fit, horrendous trigger, not terribly impressive accuracy. So they're cheap, hooray.
 
The Finn M-39 is the Apex of Mosin Variations.

Put some decent $$ into one and you will not be dissapointed, accuracy, trigger, sights and overall balance/feel is awssome, as well as the side mounted sling for an easier carry.


If you can have only one MosinNagant for shooting, Mine would be an M-39.:D
 
If you find you might be having issues finding a Finnish Mosin, don't be afraid to still go down to the nearest Dunham's and pick up a Mosin from there. Just be sure to examine the rifle and look for obvious flaws: Counter-boring, bad rifling, etc. etc. If you really want to be picky, do some research on some of the tell-tale signs of how to differentiate rifles that were made pre-war from those that were war-time expedients.

This is what a Brother-in-law and I did last year for him, and afterward we went out to the range with surplus ammo where I managed to get 1.5 MOA.

This doesn't mean all Mosins are capable of doing this, but there are those out there that certainly are - you just have to know what you're looking for so you don't up getting one that looks fine, but otherwise just shoots patterns, rather than groups.

As an end-note, be sure you know what you want in terms of standard length, or carbine length. Carbine lengths are a bit more convenient for handling, but if recoil and flash are going to be an issue for you (or those around you) then I recommend the standard length. The main downside with the standard length is that it can be a bit unwieldy to have to deal with on a hunt, or trying to squeeze into a blind.
 
Thanks for the input guys. I am probably going to buy from this guy: http://www.gunsnammo.com/ as he seems top have the best price/product quality combination that I've seen. So, do you guys have any input to offer in terms of the 1940's Finn vs the late 1960's Finn?
 
Yes, I have some input on that. I've owned quite a few of both types. The late-model M39's from the 60's and early 70's have all been very good to excellent shooters with the ammo they favor. Usually good quality light ball. With handloads you can usually get some near MOA or better groups. I've had problems gearing them to work with the D-166 loads for some reason. They seem to favor light ball so maybe that's what they were being built for. Also the bores are sometimes a little on the tight side so you can shoot .308" bullets in them to great effect. My current 1970 is doing remarkably well with Barnes .308" TSX, but cruddy with the usual stock of .311" and 312" sierras and horn. bullets. It has expensive tastes. I'd say these are more collectible in general, but there were also some really rare subtypes of M39 during the war like the Tikkas and the straight bolts The only big drawback with these is they tend to have cosmoline-infected stocks because they were never given a wood finish before being dunked in the grease. If you get one, get one with a DARK looking stock, not the blonde one. The dark ones did get some covering for the grain so they're not nearly as inflitrated with grease. I had a blonde stock that I swear had two or three pounds of cosmoline inside its grain. Took over a year to leach most of it out slowly and it got lighter and lighter!

The M39's from the Continuation War era obviously include quite a few in well-worn condition with used bores. Do watch for splitting in the wrist of the stock. They were running low on good wood by that point or something, because split wrists crop up. I've had good luck repairing them with rods and glue, but you can see the repair marks. In very general terms these seem to do better with the heavy ball than the late model ones. But as always each Mosin is a new slate and you have to figure out what it likes. You will often find a series of shims in these which were used to tune the rifle to the load they were using at that time. Overall, though, I'd say the average accuracy of the wartime M39's is not as good as the late model so-called "sneaks." This is doubtless due to the wear and tear of combat. If I were to get a wartime M39 I'd get one of the SKY Civil Guard models, because they tended to be pickier about their rifles than the regular army.

I have had no dogs with any of them, compared with a pretty high amount of barking with Soviet Mosins. I avoid the fixer-upper ones these days and try to get the most pristine. The guy your looking at there is a great seller and I've bought from him five or six times in the past. He doesn't try to sneak in junk--he tells you exactly what you're getting.

Personally, off that list, I'd get this one in spite of its high tag:

"Unissued 100% original blue, blazing new bore, matching bolt, unnumbered floor plate and a sky 43 war time stock in new condition."
 
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I recently got an "unissued with new barrel" M39 from Pat Burns. It's as accurate as my 03a3. I wouldn't hesitate getting another. I agree with what some others have said...the M39 is the best.

BTW, Pat Burns at Guns & Ammo is a woman.
 
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