The Burr-Hamilton Duel: 200 years ago...

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I don't know whether this should go in General Gun Discussions (because guns were used in the duel), or in Legal & Political (due to the nature of the dispute that led to the duel): but whatever, here goes!

From the Duluth News Tribune (http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/duluthsuperior/9086302.htm):

Posted on Tue, Jul. 06, 2004

Burr, Hamilton duel goes for round two

BY JASON GEORGE

NEW YORK TIMES

WEEHAWKEN, N.J. - It has been 200 years, minus a few days, since Vice President Aaron Burr fatally shot Alexander Hamilton in a duel here. Weehawken and the duel have been tied together in an often-uncomfortable knot ever since.

While neighboring Hoboken is known as the birthplace of Frank Sinatra and, some say, the game of baseball, the duel of July 11, 1804, continues to serve as Weehawken's main claim to fame. And that has not always sat well with residents.

"Legend and myth blend around the most historic spots. But it is not so in Weehawken," reads a 1912 travel article. "The community doesn't seem to care for the tragedy that has attracted historians and fictionists."

Even the precise site of the duel near the banks of the Hudson River has been swept underfoot as developments for the old railroad and the Lincoln Tunnel took shape.

The town's resident historian, Edward A. Fleckenstein, says that although the duel is the biggest event to ever occur in Weehawken, officials have not given it its due. In fact, he says, "We buried it."

But that is changing. The township is sponsoring a series of events this week marking the duel's 200th anniversary. Tours are being offered Thursday through Saturday to historic sites in Weehawken and the New York area that are connected to Hamilton and Burr.

At 10:30 a.m. Sunday, July 11, a re-enactment of the duel will be performed by descendants of Hamilton and Burr, who will arrive by boat at a park near the cliff where the duel is believed to have occurred. In the afternoon, two plaques will be dedicated, and a series of speeches and discussions about the duel will follow.

Douglas Hamilton, 53, an IBM salesman from suburban Westerville, Ohio, will play his great-great-great-great-great-grandfather during the re-enactment. Hard feelings between the descendants of Hamilton and Burr have persisted through every generation, he said, but perhaps this is the year the two families can finally make peace. "It just takes time for some of those wounds to heal," Hamilton said.

The site was already established as a favorite spot for duelists by the time Burr and Hamilton arrived to settle a political and personal argument that had been going on for years. Dueling was illegal in New York and New Jersey, but Weehawken was mostly a virgin forest estate, Fleckenstein said, and far enough out of the way to avoid the authorities.

Burr had dueled there five years before, against Hamilton's brother-in-law, but all the bullets had missed their mark. Two years after that, Hamilton's eldest son was killed in a duel there.

"It was a wilderness, pretty much," said Fleckenstein, who lives near the Weehawken cliffs in the same house he was born in 84 years ago.

Burr and Hamilton had journeyed by boat from Manhattan in the early morning with only their oarsmen, their seconds and a doctor. Within hours, Hamilton was back on the shore of his adopted New York with a mangled liver and a .554-caliber ball in his spine.

Hamilton, the nation's first treasury secretary, whose influence on the young nation went far beyond his foremost title, died the next day. Murder charges were filed against Burr and later dropped, and his popularity and career declined.

It would take only a short time after the duel for the first monument to appear. The St. Andrew's Society of the State of New York placed it there to honor a fellow Scotsman, Hamilton. It stood almost 14 feet tall, and the inscription did not mention Burr.

The monument was vandalized, and pieces of it were hauled away. It was gone by 1821, said Lauren Sherman of the Weehawken Historical Commission. Most historians say the bottom of the monument adorned a bar in Manhattan's Bowery district. Some of it is on the fourth floor of the New-York Historical Society in Manhattan, although in its sad state it seems to honor a man named ALEXANDER HAMIL.

By the 1830s, the monument was replaced with two granite blocks, one for each duelist, but they too disappeared, and their fate is unknown, Sherman said.

On the duel's 90th anniversary, in 1894, a stone bust of Hamilton was erected and placed atop the rock on which he supposedly rested after being struck by Burr's bullet. Hamilton looked out on slowly expanding Weehawken from his cliff-top perch, with Midtown Manhattan growing behind him. Yet again, the bust's days were numbered.

"The honored, cherished stone bust of Alexander Hamilton was taken and thrown off the cliff and destroyed" on Oct. 14, 1934, said Fleckenstein, who blamed partisan activists trying to disgrace the government. "People should have displayed shock, but well, there was no shock."

Within a year, Weehawken's mayor decided it was time to finally commemorate the duel properly -- and permanently -- by replacing the deposed stone bust of Hamilton with a bronze one. Again, there was no thought to a bust for Burr.

At the unveiling ceremony, Hamilton Fish, the Republican New York congressman, whose great-grandfather was a friend of Hamilton, took the opportunity to blast Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal. His remarks nearly touched off a riot, Fleckenstein said.

"It shocked everybody out, especially the Democrats," Fleckenstein said.

There was little fanfare in 1904, for the 100th anniversary, Fleckenstein said. In 1976, for the nation's bicentennial, the mayor and a council member re-enacted the Hamilton and Burr roles but only after the chairwoman of Weehawken's bicentennial committee spoke out against reopening old wounds by drawing attention to the deadly duel.

While the town has named an avenue and a park after Hamilton, Burr has made do with Burr Place, a street that is less than a football field long.

This will all change on July 11. One plaque to mark Weehawken's dueling grounds and another to note the Hamilton-Burr duel specifically, will be placed near the bronze bust of Hamilton. About 100 descendants of the two families are expected to attend the event.

Antonio Burr, 51, a Manhattan psychologist who will play the role of Aaron Burr, says that for years the Burr family has felt slighted by how their ancestor has been treated by Weehawken, the nation and history itself.

"He killed the guy, and he paid the price for it," Burr said.

He speaks sharply of the town's refusal in recent years to let the Aaron Burr Association erect a bust of their own. "It was very simple, but perhaps the time was not right," he said.

Now Weehawken is welcoming the family to town and their input in the commemoration events. "Obviously, over time, perspective changes," said Richard F. Turner, the mayor.

The township's newfound embrace of the duel may also have something to do with its changing demographics. The township, with a population of 13,500, is now more than 40 percent Hispanic, according to 2000 census data.

These immigrants are interested in learning more about the nation's history, Turner said.

There will be, however, at least one inaccuracy in the history lesson to be played out on Sunday. After the report from Burr's pistol, Hamilton will take a knee instead of staggering around and resting wounded on a rock as his ancestor did.

It was a compromise Hamilton reached with some of his older relatives who, he said, despite the passage of all these years, could not bear to imagine their ancestor laid that low again.

He said he understands their pain, adding, "Maybe 50 years from now, we'll find an energetic relative who'll say, 'I'll take the shot and fall down.' "
 
Interesting history. Too bad politicians don't duel anymore.

I was married on the 188th anniversary of the duel. Every time I hear of Alexander/Burr, I think of the "got milk" commercial.
 
Man, dueling politicians would rule. All of the pro-gun ( I mean , REALLY pro gun, like some of the really good Republicans, and some of the really good Dixiecrats) congressman and stuff would have sweet, customized 1911's and such, and all the GFW's would have frenchie-foils and much joy would be had.

~Slam_Fire
 
IIRC, The NRA years ago examined the dueling pistols (supplied by Hamilton) and found they had a "hidden" set trigger. Hamilton had a gunsmith install a set trigger that was "engaged by pushing forward on the single trigger". This was of course considered illegal in a duel and means Hamilton was less than an honorable man.:uhoh:
 
Nah, dueling should be conducted with .45cal smoothbore cap&ball pistols.

Keep the fatalities down. With .45, .40, or 9mm pistols, the rapid-fire capacity and extra accuracy would end up with the death of both duelists too often.

Allow the challenged to pick the weapons: Single-shot, single-action revolver, or the various swords. Even fisticuffs if they want. Heck, you could even allow armoured combats with maces, swords, or lances from horseback. Otherwise, I'd tend to dissallow armor for the light swords, as well as for the firearms.

Heck, I'd choose Lance-charge just for the heck of it!
 
I've been real sick & couldn't post earlier

I really wanted to post on this thread because I am related to Aaron Burr,When I was a kid my mom insisted that I don't talk about it because Burr was so unpopular earlier this century....but I thought it was real cool to be related to him.

Mom allways said Hamilton was asking for it:cool:


In highschool I met a Hamilton....She was real pretty,but one grade above me so I never asked her out.

It's bummed me out that I've been to ill to check out the cool stuff on c-span etc
 
One must remember that a gentleman's personal property is not complete without a set of dueling pistols. Same as an Officer isn't dressed without his sword. I've been kicking myself for about 25 years because I saw a nice set of cased pistols for $600Cdn. Poverty blows.
 
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