The Children's Defense Fund is morally outraged with us...

[ralphie98]

“Since 1979, nearly 96,000 children and teenagers have died on the killing fields of America

HOLY $#&!, we have killing fields here? who knew?!?! here in the upper midwest, we mostly have corn fields. The killing fields must be out in Kali or something.

 

[Master Blaster]

In the decade preceding the ban's passage in 1994, the number of children and teens who died from gunfire increased each year. During the ban, the number of deaths of children and teens decreased steadily. In 2002, the annual toll in those age groups was 50 percent lower than in 1994.

Which proves nothing relating to assault weapons, since durring the ban the number of military style semi auto rifles in civilian hands doubled. Unless of course all of these kids were beaten to death with bayonette lugs and flash hiders.

 

[hso]

Here's the data table that they base their argument on. Note that of the 2,911 death for "children" under 20 years of age 2,497 were older than 14 (85.8%) and 6% were less than 10. Pitty they don't break it down for 18-19 year olds. :banghead:

http://www.childrensdefense.org/education/gunviolence/gunreport2005/tables/FARACE_detail01.xls

 

[spacemanspiff]

Childrens Defense Fund, huh?

well i'm a member of the Tactical Childrens Defense Fire Team.


their data is suspect. 2nd leading cause of death? yeah right.

 

[Waitone]

I just can't help myself. Whenever some says, "Do it for the children" the needle on my BS meter slams against the peg. Does the CDC list the number of kids drowned in 5 gal plastic buckets??????

 

[CAPTAIN MIKE]

Beat Them At Their Own Game

The so-called Children's Defense Fund (cool marketing name) puts out statistics trying to make the following logical 'connection' in the mind of the public at large:

1. Teens and Children killed by firearms is a bad thing.
2. There would be less children killed by firearms if there were less firearms.
3. Therefore, guns are evil and should be banned.

Now that the same logic -- better yet, take the same statistical categories and show:

1. The number of Teens and Children killed by Automobiles.
2. The number of Automobile Accidents caused by Negligent Drivers and by Drunk Drivers.
3. Therefore, automotive vehicles are evil and should be banned.

Everytime I use this same analogy with anti-gunners, they have a very hard time responding to the logic of it. Usually, the response I get is something along this line: "But wait a minute, Mike. Not ALL drivers are negligent and not ALL drivers are drunk." I then respond - "Thank you. You just proved my point. Not all firearm owners are negligent, and not all firearm owners are criminals."

 

[Strings]

Mike: the response I usually get is "but you HAVE to drive to make a living". I've disabused a few of that notion. Although, in our modern society, it gets hard to argue that a car isn't essential...