"The Choice of Law Enforcement Professionals"

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Has anyone else been sick and tired of seeing "the choice of law enforcement/military professionals" in ads?

How can one be a law enforcement amateur? And aren't the 'choices' of the military usually the lowest bidder? I mean, if I actually cared, I'd be driving a Ford Crown Victoria and be wearing Harley Davidson t-shirts :barf:

It's even worse than 'tactical' :rolleyes:

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"The Choice of __________ Professionals"....

Notice that it's phrased in plural.

All that means is that they got 2 schmucks to choose it. It can mean more, but the minimum is that a whole, whopping TWO people bit on their idea.

:banghead:
 
I hear you. I get sick of reading that I should choose a certain band of ammo or a certain cal. because it is favored by law enforcement. If I knew why, or what the selection criteria were I might feel different. Don't get me wrong, I know some in LE and I respect their opinions, but that is because of who they are and what they know, not because they are LE.
 
Considering that most equipment chosen for "law enforcement professionals" are decided on by politicians based on what's "politically correct", "politically expedient", beneficial to their "campaign contributors" (i.r. whoever bribes better), and who offers the product at the lowest bid.....


...I'd avoid anything considered "the choice of law enforcement" & do my own research (esp. on THR). :cool:
 
Whenever I see this sort of advertisment, I automatically become very suspicious of whatever product or service is being offered ... and for many of the reasons already stated in the previous posts ...

I'm even suspicious of this sort of thing coming from other cops ... ;)

Advertising's a good thing, as many of us are simply too busy doing our jobs to keep abreast of the latest everything, you know? But the info has to be looked at with a professional, unbiased and discerning eye.

Hearing about something from other folks that are actually USING that something, and can give a solid review and explanation of its advantages & disadvantages ... without resorting to advertising slogans ... is more encouraging than hearing about something from the admin folks that only sit behind their desks and answer phone calls from vendors ...

Snake oil is still snake oil ... no matter who tries to peddle it ...
 
To me, the problem isn't the low bidder and all that, it is the fact that somewhere some "Police Professional" is using everything there is: Glock, Sig, HK, 1911, Beretta, revolvers, you name it. Same with ammo.
Obviously since this is the case, anyone can advertise their product as the choice of law enforcement professionals. Then we get into what makes a law enforcement professional ? Security guards are enforcing laws for their private employer.
I am sure that somewhere there is a "law enforcement professional" carrying a High Point, Raven, Loricin, you name it.
 
Has anyone else been sick and tired of seeing ...
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Don't stop there.
I'm sick and tired of a whole slew of words used today by marketing, and the buying public.

I'm am ME, I could give a rats butt about being sterotyped by most of the crap I hear. Be it Toliet paper, guns, ammo, holsters, bling bling, doo dads, toothpaste, I don't care, I don't want to hear it, I don't want to see it.

Yep, there are special cases of special needs needing to be filled in the pursuit of certain tasks, "and the way they are planned and carried out". And yes I "do have certain items for certain tasks and my approach to carrying them out".

Yep - I'm turned off - big time! Pretty vocal about it , and I will on purpose not participate. I have and will walk - run from some folks. I don't care anymore.
 
I have and will walk - run from some folks. I don't care anymore.
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Gotta sympathize to some degree ...

Sometimes, all you really need to get a certain job done is a round wheel ... and the knowledge, training, experience and ability to make it roll ... and no matter how many times someone reinvents the wheel, the round ones still seem to work the best ...

I was listening to someone that had returned from a "high-speed-low-drag" class at one of the better nationally recognized schools ... and he was telling me that he'd learned the newest & best handgun for special L/E operational needs was going to be the 1911 design ...

And to take it a step further ... it appears that the all-steel, 5" barreled, full-size 1911 is going to be the "best" of the available 1911 design configurations ...

Who'd a thunk? :rolleyes:
 
Speaking strictly as a marketing and advertising guy: testimonials move product. Generic or umbrella testimonials are a long way down the ladder from the real McCoy.

Kimber's LA SWAT gun gets respect in the marketplace, though whether deservedly or not is another matter. Simply stating "the choice of law enforcement professionals" lets me know the advertiser is either huffing and puffing with no basis in fact, or couldn't persuade a police department to sign a letter endorsing the product.

The vast majority of cops I've shot with haven't been very good shots, so I'm not likely to be persuaded by their testimonials, anyway.
 
Standing Wolf,
The vast majority of cops I've shot with haven't been very good shots, so I'm not likely to be persuaded by their testimonials, anyway.
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Yes Sir, BTDT.

Had Officers show up at the range before quals. Now some older officers grew up shooting, and could. New officers ...well for some first experience with a fiream.

Dept made a firearm decison, well the older ones fussed and griped, but took the time and practice to become good. Newer officers, had a devil of a time. I don't care what the dept "said" about "so and so" using this firearm. When the firearm is to big for the shooters hand, and they cannot reach the trigger...a 14# DA first shot ( as per req's) they are not gonna shoot worth a darn. These were guys with smaller hands...btw.

Not knocking marketing Standing Wolf, but just like reading the Editorials -- just because someting is in print , does not mean it is true, correct for everyone. One reads, researches and formulates what is best for them. Common Sense needs to be used and applied to some stuff.
 
Well just look at what we carry - Looks like each department and agency carries something different. I wouldn't buy something just because so and so reccomended it, be it a doctor, lawyer, baker or LEO. I know our guns are submitted by specfication bid then samples are submitted from the bidders and put to test by our firearms section. Fortunetly for us the polictical part has never played into our selection. Knock on wood.
 
I could really care less who else uses the prodcuts I purchase. if the military or LE uses the same products doesn't make it any better or worse than ones they don't use. I've been on the "other side" and tell attest that one of the MAJKOR factors in what is issued depends greatly on COST. As a civilian, i am able to put that factor a bit lower on the scale.
 
Skunky, as a former gunslinger, I certainly knows it moves product! Just look at the M9! Good enough for Uncle Sugar, good enough for me is the attitude I saw time and time again. Granted these people knew very little about fighting with pistols, but it was their money and Beretta knew how to separate them from it.

It's the free market. If it works and it's just puffery and not fraud, I have no concerns.
 
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..".I mean, if I actually cared, I'd be driving a Ford Crown Victoria and be wearing Harley Davidson t-shirts "


...."Are you trying to say that Harley Davidson t-shirts are cheap? "

..And what is so bad about the Vicy? The `56 Vic is awsome....:cool:

....:what: ....:D :D
 
i hate it when they flat out lie too:
CZ 75 B is used by more Govern-ments, Militaries, Police and Security agencies than any other pistol in the world.
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this is directly from the CZ-USA website
that distinction probably belongs to the Browning Hi-Power or Makarov
 
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