The Dirty Little Secret Ammo Makers Don’t Want You To Find Out (article)

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An article about gimmick ammo I wrote. The blog is not mine, but the article is. As always, I'd like to hear your opinions.

Every year we see several new “advances” in ammunition. These new products are invariably hailed by their makers as revolutionary. Sometimes the whole company is new. They promise something with ammunition that has never been done but they rarely deliver. You see, ammunition is a mature field. There are occasionally incremental advances in metallurgy or propellants, like the use of bonded bullets and low flash powders that began more than a quarter century ago, but more often, these “advances” provide no actual performance advantage.

Often, the claimed advance amounts to absolute snake oil such as the ARX Inceptor. The bullet is powdered copper in a polymer matrix. It supposedly takes advantage of some hydraulic alchemy to create wounds similar to those created by a rifle. That is not hyperbole, the manufacturer actually claims that pistol ammunition is capable of producing rifle-like wounds. In reality, it functions like a FMJ, at least when it doesn’t fragment.


The rest of the article is here, if you're interested.
 
The truth is that there has been a revolution in both hunting and personal defence bullet performance sine the '80s but that is mostly the product of evolutionary change.

There have been some real gimmicks from some of the fly-by-night guys. Even the reputable ammo companies introduce things that may work very well with a particular caliber, weight, and velocity and not at others.

Mike
 
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Advancements in any field usually come in small increments with many failures along the way. That doesn't mean you stop trying.
 
The thing that came to my mind was that HP bullets for pistols wern't invented, but they have supposedly made them more accurate and more reliable (meaning they spread open better).

I wasn't thinking of some of the rifle bullet construction mentioned above.
 
Marketing hyperbole & Form Over Function.

Few companies are happy with the Ain't Broke concept. If their R&D section (if they even have one) cannot actually produce a "better mousetrap", they will re-package the old one and do their very best to convince us that it is New & Improved.

For those who like fishing ... consider that the bright, shiny, sparkly lures on the store shelves are made to look that way at least as much to snag a prospective customer as a fish. ;)
 
I would much rather have a hollow point that expands and dumps it's energy between 18" and 24" into the target than have an FMJ penetrate the entire target and also the next person standing behind the target.

The advances in bullet design is what now allows calibers such as the .380 ACP to be acceptable, but of course not ideal, for personal self defense.
 
Ammo makers know that many customers do not know what the standards are and they know that most customers will believe that the product performs as claimed.

+1
While I find the faith in magic bullets to be amusing what really pisses me off is the fact that ammo buyers seem to be clueless to the eroding in quality of ammo overall.

I don't know whether ammo companies believe that only neophytes are buying factory ammo so they can get away with it or they are a lot closer to insolvency than we realize.

I would much rather have a hollow point that expands and dumps it's energy

Is there a way to measure "energy dump" is there data that backs up this theory?
 
It has been a while back a guy at work was real up on the RIP ammo. I looked at it & was unimpressed. I don't remember now what he spent on it but he was convinced it was the best thing since sliced bread. I did not try to persuade him otherwise as I just didn't see the point. I try to avoid the gimmick stuff.
 
Is there a way to measure "energy dump" is there data that backs up this theory?

Kinetic energy equals 1/2 times (mass times velocity squared.)

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If a projectile enters a target with a given mass at a given velocity, it has a given kinetic energy. If the projectile stops within the target, all of it's kinetic energy has been transferred to the target.

If the projectile exits the target, then the difference between the entering kinetic energy and the exiting kinetic energy is the energy transferred to the target.

Now, how much this kinetic energy transfer to the target is responsible for immobilizing the target is very debatable, especially with the small energies of a .380.

However, any .380 that mushrooms is boring a larger hole in the target than an FMJ of the same caliber, and bigger holes have better odds of hitting something vital.
 
Energy transfer has virtually nothing to do with wounding at pistol velocity. While it is technically true that all the kinetic energy of the projectile is transferred to the target if the bullet comes to a rest, in accordance with the first law of thermodynamics, it isn't necessarily used to sever tissues. Much of the energy is transferred to the target tissue, which stretches and snaps back into position. From a physics perspective, most of the energy is converted into heat, which is pretty insignificant, considering the mass.
 
Nothing, necessarily. Golden Saber and Ranger T perform very well. Gold Dot and HST perform slightly better, especially absolutely barriers.
 
Material, design, weight, and velocity equals penetration. Expansion of the projectile, combined with mass and velocity, equals more tissue damage with handgun velocities.

I still find that even though there haven't been any MAJOR "magical" advances in cartridges, I really wonder what it is that they are trying to accomplish. And I have come to the conclusion that it is nothing more than what most everything that's "new and improved" does......entice potential buyers into believing that the product will make it that much easier to accomplish your goal.
 
I really wonder what it is that they are trying to accomplish. And I have come to the conclusion that it is nothing more than what most everything that's "new and improved" does......entice potential buyers into believing that the product will make it that much easier to accomplish your goal.

The old saw about Fishing Lures: The majority of fishing lures are made to catch fisherman not fish. :)
 
What is important

The fact of the matter is that handgun ammunition will never be as effective as will high velocity rifle ammo...Therefore, the important issues with handgun fire against any live target will be first- where the bullet hits (at a central nervous system site), second- how deeply it penetrates (a shallow wound misses ALL the vitals), and third- how big the wound channel is (bigger bullets don't suffer from failure to expand.)

The fourth issue will be how many times the target is hit, and the fifth issue is how much vital fluid (blood) is lost by the target. If blood is leaking out the front AND the back there could be a decrease in time the shot(s) would need to take effect (which leads us to solid bullets to avoid expansion and loss of penetration.)

The issue of over penetration comes after the target is neutralized and during the process of assessing legal issues not germane to the immediate concerns of survival in a lethal force confrontation. (Review the FBI shootout in Miami Florida--the bad guy had received lethal wounds that had just not penetrated deeply enough to be immediately effective just before he killed two agents.)
 
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If any of you are forensic medical types, yes, the front wound will likely not have any leakage but the reality is that the exit wound is the most likely one to have any leakage at all. Internal loss of fluid will depend on the likelihood that the cavity into which the fluid is leaking is small and will contain the fluid before the loss becomes incapacitating.
 
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