The logistics of owning multiple calibers

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I recently went from owning 2 pistol calibers (.45 ACP and 41 mag) to owning these:

.380 ACP
.38 spcl
.357 Magnum
9 mm
10mm
.40 S&W
44 spcl
44 mag
45 colt

I was reloading for the .45 yesterday and kind of mulling over some thoughts. I'm wondering if it's worth reloading for even half of these.

I'm not sure how much I'll be shooting some of them so I'm thinking it might be far more economical to just buy factory ammo for the stuff I rarely shoot, and reload only for the higher priced stuff like 44 spcl, 44 mag and 10mm....perhaps 357 too.

For those that have multiple calibers...how do you manage it? Reload only? Or factory for some calibers and reloads for others?

I'm also interested in any insight you might have on owning, shooting and managing multiple calibers...I'm sure there are some issues I've not run into yet. Heck I haven't even had time to shoot any of them yet.

thanks.
 
I reload all my pistol ammo. In fact I load for all the calibers you show except for 10MM and .40 S&W which I don't own. You already have the press other misc. items needed to reload. All you basically need are dies and shellplate/shell holder. I load all mine with either Bullseye or Unique so I do not have money in a number of different powders. I also ask people at the range who don't load for their brass if they are shooting new factory rounds. Most are more than happy to give me the brass so I have no cost their. The only additional investment is a supply of bullets for each caliber. Based on the cost of good factory ammo, it doesn't take but about 500 rounds to pay for the extra equipment.
 
I own about 10 calibers. I shoot factory ammo, untill I have 3 or 400 pieces of spent brass. At this point I buy a set of dies and reload them. The savings over shooting factory ammo pays for the dies as soon as I shoot my reloads.

Just be very careful when you start using multiple powders. Always triple check your recipes before and after loading any rounds.
 
Of the cartridges you listed the only one I personally wouldn't reload for is 9mm para. I reload for 28 cartridges and have actually sold guns to buy components to feed others. I have just about stopped shooting jacketed bullets except for hunting and have taken up casting so I can afford to shoot. There are many people with more guns than I have, but the logistics of caring for and feeding 64 guns is overwhelming at times. One more thing I wanted to mention - I used to load for several semi-auto guns, both handguns and long guns, but slowly got rid of most of them because I absolutely HATE chasing and picking up brass.
 
I am able to load for every cartridge that I have a firearm for except 32 S&W. I lost count when I ran out of fingers and toes.

Dies and related stuff are usually the next purchase after I buy a firearm with a cartridge that I do not already have.

But, I like to reload.
 
I reload for every rifle and handgun I own.Often when buying a new gun the salesman will say they have good deals on some ammo for that gun ,I usually just smile and say why would I waste my money on factory loads,where's the reloading supplies?
I have a spiral bound book that I have all calibers seperate and the loads I've tried and which loads I am loading for that caliber with all the pertinant info on that recipe,and in some guns which load shoots best in that gun.
 
Kinda have the same thing going on I love reloading I have stock piled several 1000 rounds I am at the point that I have made all kinds of lables, Holiday Plinkers, Scared rabbit, running deer, Fourth of july, and so on all with the Dads Wicked Ammo lable now I am only using premium componints nickle cases, nosler bulletc CCI primers test a few and stash the rest for my Son to take his unborne son shooting after I'm gone thinking about putting lil
notes in the boxes with a $20.00 for lunch.
Not sure if that's what you were looking for but for me I get real Joy from my reloading bench from the alone quiet to bringing friends and family in to help but most of all love going out shooting with my son and our friends pop open a few of the big ammo cans FULL of ammo and see if they can shoot it all.
Manage sounds like work with caution and respect load and shoot and load some more.
 
Here's the way I look at it, if you already have the primers and powder, that means for the price of 4 boxes of factory ammo you can buy the dies, bullets and brass to reload them yourself. For about a 1/3 of the cost.
 
I'm wondering if it's worth reloading for even half of these.
Yes, it is, unless you only shoot them once or twice a year. Most of us shoot all of our calibers a good deal more than that.
 
I own multiple calibers & reload for all of them.
I'm not looking at the savings, as much.
I enjoy reloading & love being able to tailor my ammo.

If I were looking at savings only, I'd have to determine the cost of extra dies, powders, maybe caliber conversion kits, etc. vs. the cost of factory ammo, vs how much do you shoot each caliber.

Anyway, for me it's all about the reloading process.
Just my 2¢
 
reload only, except for ar-15 which I shoot XM193 LC for plinking and then load the brass for match ammo / practice. I think I load about 20 calibers - just consider dies, cases, bullets, shellholders, trim pilots part of the acqiisition cost. Plan on an extra $100-150 per new caliber.
 
I reload for every caliber that I own, including .25ACP....a bit anal there, but those dies are Lee carbide, and were cheap..20 years ago<GG>
 
I reload for several calibers that I do not have. Just stack them up in labeled boxes for future use (soon as I buy that caliber-lol). I have most calibers. Have them for a reason--never can tell when a cache of ammo might turn up in strange calibers.
 
I reload for everything I own. (.223, 6.8, .308, 7.62x54R, .380, 9mm, 40S&W, .45 ACP) Also already have the setup and dies for the press for 6.5 Grenedel and 300 Blackout) I am considering starting to just buy .380 however. I only shoot my LCP enough to stay proficient enough with it to put 25 shots on standard letter paper at 21 feet. My RCBS dies always seem to stick the decapper on the primer and bind up the works on my Dillon, so I'm just getting sick of it. Supposedly RCBS makes a spring loaded decapper to deal with this, but I've yet to catch it in stock anywhere.
 
Sometimes I will buy factory ammo if I need new brass.

Absolutely. I when I do buy factory ammo I have a parameter to consider; what brass is this loaded in?

If only a couple of my favorite bullets were available as just bullets: .358 125gr NYCLADs, .400 180gr HSTs
 
At one time I had dies for 141 different cartridges and the guns to shoot them. I've thinned it down to less than 40 and I have 51 different boolit molds for them. I don't load rimfire, of course, but I do load all center fire and cast boolits for most of them. Casting and loading is as much fun and satisfaction as shooting.
 
Progressive presses are fast, but a little expensive to change calibers (in time and in money). Single stages change calibers cheaply but are slow in production rate An autoindexing turret nicely splits the difference.

Cost, convenience, quantities needed, time available. You have to balance these factors to come to your own point of optimal returns. This is not easy, but can be done by careful application of cost analysis and with the assistance of a computer is much easier. Or by the seat of the pants, which is more fun.

A few years ago I bought a couple thousand 45 ACP because they were on sale for less than I could buy components. Essentially I was buying hardball equal to medium quality handloads and getting a supply of free brass.

9mm right now is very cheap to buy over the counter, so I don't reload them for right now. I just keep the brass for later.

Managing multiple calibers is no more difficult than herding cats. Just take them one at a time.

Lost Sheep
 
A set of reloading dies is normaly the first accsory I get for a new gun. I have the ablilty to reload for all the calibers that I have (and a few that I don't have any longer). Just a couple of years back we had a run on ammo the likes I had never seen! During that time I only ever had to buy one box of factory ammo, I had bought a 380acp during the maddness and didn't have any ammo for it. Some years back I made up my mind that I would never be denied the ablity to shoot due to lack of ammo. I keep a small suply of brass, primers, powder and bullets on hand. I would like to learn to cast my own bullets to help make it easyer to stock up. Heck I even got a set of dies for 5.45x39 russian all though I don't know that there is even brass in that caliber avalible?

That being said, Your list is not to bad, a couple of them use the same die sets, primers, powders and bullets.

38spl/357mag
40S&W/10mm
44spl/44mag

All of the above use the same die sets to load. Its just a matter of setting them up differant.


380 ACP
9 mm
45 colt

The other calibers you would have to get a separate die set for. But Most of them can be had for a fairly reasonable price.


But thats just the way I am.

WB
 
I was reloading for the .45 yesterday and kind of mulling over some thoughts. I'm wondering if it's worth reloading for even half of these.

I'm not sure how much I'll be shooting some of them so I'm thinking it might be far more economical to just buy factory ammo for the stuff I rarely shoot, and reload only for the higher priced stuff like 44 spcl, 44 mag and 10mm....perhaps 357 too.

For those that have multiple calibers...how do you manage it? Reload only? Or factory for some calibers and reloads for others?

I'm also interested in any insight you might have on owning, shooting and managing multiple calibers...I'm sure there are some issues I've not run into yet. Heck I haven't even had time to shoot any of them yet.

thanks.

I load for all my firearms except shotguns and have the tools for that. The ones I shoot the least I didn't go the most expensive route on dies with but the ones I have work equally as well for their intended purpose. For the heavily used ones I went with either Hornady or RCBS carbide sets, the others are mixed manufacturers sets which I picked up on sale here and there through the years. I use carbide only for the handgun rounds since they ar usually run through my progressive when I decide to load up a batch.

As for bullets, I purchased bulk through the years in weights I felt were optimum for caliber. I got them when they were on sale for the most part and bought bulk in 500 or more at a time. I also did the same with primers and brass. I sorted through all of my loading manuals and picked out powders which would cover a target load, mid range load, and top end load for most if not all of them. This usually was covered by Unique, one of the Accurate powders, 2400, and 110/296. After playing with a one pound jug in each, I purchased 8# kegs of what worked best, so I didn't have to sweat working up a new load every time something changed a bit. What I settled on was Unique, 2400, and 296. With these three I can load something for them all and get plenty of power if needed or simply target loads when not. They might not be the optimum powders for every single load or bullet weight, but you would be hard pressed not to be able to find something somewhere using them.

As for factory rounds, well I have purchased them in the past, simply to run them across my chrony and then work up a load to equal their performance with a particular bullet. It's not something I do on a regular basis, nor do I stockpile much factory ammo. I keep plenty of brass cleaned up and ready to load, and it only takes an hour or so to turn out a hundred or so rounds for any particular caliber. As for the multiple calibers, I have at least one something, in calibers ranging from .223 through .312 in rifles and from .380 through .454 in handguns. Some get plenty of use, some are safe queens which were inherited, and hold a LOT of sentimental value, but aren't what I would want to run a lot of rounds through. Even so they do get drug out from the darkness from time to time for inspection, and a few rounds down the pipe simply to keep them lubed up and functioning properly.

My autos get several hundred rounds a year run through them, simply to keep me sharp on their use, and I have hundreds of rounds loaded up at the ready to do so at any given time. The revolvers get used almost on a weekly basis and I usually only keep 50 - 100 rounds loaded up at any given time for them. Saves room and I keep playing with different loads seemingly every couple of months.

If you want to go cheap for the lesser ones you shoot, pick up once fired cases in bulk, get the Lee die sets, find a good cast bullet like MB, and pick a weight and stock up on them. Powders like Red Dot, Unique, and a host of others will work great with cast, and allow you to shoot a whole bunch with only a pound. Find something that shoot well with them all and buy one 8# jug and be done with it. Then if you want to raise the octane level you only need the one pound canister for those when you decide to crank them up.

The thing is, once you have the brass, dies, and bullets, they aren't going to take up too much room, and you have them when you decide to load. If you have a powder that works across the board, you simply set up and go to it. The store won't be out of them, and the price will be right. Otherwise your at the mercy of the stores and what ever they decide to price them at, or if they sell them at all.
 
Reloading is something you either do or you don't. Of your list, 44 mag/special, 45 Colt, 38 spl/357 magnum are the ones to absolutely reload for.

If you already have a press and other gear and only need dies it seems a simple decision. They are all revolver calibers so keeping all your brass is a lot easier. You can use the same components for the partnered calibers so you don't need to stock up on 5 different supplies, and if you choose a versatile powder you can use the same one for all of them.

Have you priced 45 Colt or 44 Mag/Spl ammo lately? Getting close to $40 a box for them alone. 38 spl and 357 mag are getting near to $20 a box.

Even using new components you will be loading your large caliber revolvers for 1/4 that price, and the 38/357 for half the price.

A set of Lee carbide dies will run you less than $40 shipped for any one of those calibers. Loading two boxes of 44's or 45's will pay off their dies in savings. Loading 5 boxes of 38/357's pays for those dies.

10mm is also a good candidate for loading, however they fling the brass across heck's half-acre and you will always lose some. I know a lot of 10mm loaders, that's their complaint, the brass. But 10mm is not cheap to buy and since you can load 40 S&W with the exact same dies and components you can see the savings comes quick in this caliber, too.

Lots of people buy 9mm, it's $10 a box on sale. Of all of them, that's the one the least cost-effective to reload. For me, it's also what I shoot the MOST of so I make up on volume... I load minimum 3000 9mm a year. That's 60 boxes. If I were using new components I cut that in half. 60 boxes, times $5 a box, is $300 in savings.

If you don't shoot that much 9mm or 380, those are the ones to maybe not bother with.

Now, I got into casting a couple years ago, so I make my own bullets. That throws the savings out the window. I can shoot nearly any pistol caliber for about $2 a box or less. Yes, including Magnums. There's savings!
 
Sometime, or another, I end up buying the proper components to reload for each rifle and pistol that I have. I have yet to get set up for .45 Auto, but would like to, eventually. I had purchased two of those large 250-count yellow boxes of 230g ball and then a box of decent HP's for that gun. The ball shoots way high (or low, can't remember), BUT the HP's shoot right-on with the fixed sights of my Sig at about 21 feet (7 yards, apparent average of most indoor defense shooting distances).

I have not really taken it out and shot it more than several 7-round mag's at a time, in fact, when the HP's were right-on, I took only two shots and decided they shot so well, I was stopping there instead of burning up any more of the HP's.

Part of the reason, as well, is that things are very tight right now. I don't have extra money to spend on really ANYTHING. What money I do make goes into repairing the house and heating oil for this cold climate.
 
Once you own the press and necessary accessories, adding another cartridge is of little expense. I've been loading for multiple cartridges since I began to reload, including shotshell. I do buy shotshells when I'm unable to locate re-claimed shot, or, if I'm invited to hunt game birds without enough notice to load up. But outside of that, I reload about 95% or more of what I shoot.
 
I don't see what your problem is, myself. I currently load for 31 different calibers. I don't watch the drivel they call television, and you can't just sit around and read books all the time, so my hobby is reloading and shooting, or vice versa.

Some of the calibers I load for are reloading propositions only. I've never seen .45-120 Sharps ammunition for sale, and wouldn't buy it if I did. My .400 Cor-Bon likes my loads, and the local stores don't carry it, and most of the clerks have never heard of it. My 9x25 Dillon is something that I like to tinker with, and I only know of one place making it, Double Tap, but again, I wouldn't buy any ammunition for this caliber even if I did see it for sale. I've yet to see 9x21 ammunition for sale, and 9x23 Winchester is pretty rare. My .375 Winchester Marlin would never get fed if I had to depend on factory ammunition.

I could go on, but I think I've made my point. You either enjoy reloading or you don't. I enjoy it, along with the bullet casting, bullet swaging, etc.

Hope this helps.

Fred
 
I shot 270 in a 7mmRM chamber. It bulged the brass.
I shot 270 in a 7mmRM chamber, again. I bulged and split the brass.

My brother shot 7.62x25mm in one of my CZ52 9mm barrels. It bulged the brass and jammed.
My brother shot 9mm in one of my CZ52 7.62x25mm barrels. I cored the bullet and jammed.

So far we got away with it.
 
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