Deltaboy1984
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Great story Carl.
The old man's stick.
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Great story! As for myself, I am old and gimped enough to need a cane. Worse yet it's gotta be light.
'Course I bet that I have had enough years of straight baton training/use to make a would be attacker regret his actions.
Us old crippled guys got a bad attitude and see no reason not to fight.
'Course I bet that I have had enough years of straight baton training/use to make a would be attacker regret his actions.
Us old crippled guys got a bad attitude and see no reason not to fight.
Carl Levitian
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Great story! As for myself, I am old and gimped enough to need a cane. Worse yet it's gotta be light.
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That's okay lefty, a light stick makes a fast handling tool. just don't use it as a club, but as a quick spear. It plays heck with the solar plexus and throat. Not good on eyes either!
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That's okay lefty, a light stick makes a fast handling tool. just don't use it as a club, but as a quick spear. It plays heck with the solar plexus and throat. Not good on eyes either!
Deltaboy1984
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Very Wittie Carl. I read before a British officer nearly took the head off some street punk in India with a rattan cane. Those light one can be nasty.
Dirty Bob
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I have a rattan cane and can attest to its speed. I see it more for pokes or for two-hand thrusts capable of tranferring much of my body weight into an area an inch in diameter. Ouch. It's also good for hooking and rips/throws.
Dirty Bob
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Deltaboy1984
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I love a good stick.
Entertaining story. Thank you.
As for applicability, I'd refer to the Italians. They know a thing or two about canes. The Irish do probably too.
Personally, I stick to Filipino fighting arts and hope that I'll be able to transfer my skills to canes, once I reach my Golden Age.
As for applicability, I'd refer to the Italians. They know a thing or two about canes. The Irish do probably too.
Personally, I stick to Filipino fighting arts and hope that I'll be able to transfer my skills to canes, once I reach my Golden Age.
Eskrima is very handy.
Carl Levitian
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That's the beauty of a stick, Jack. It not only transfers to a cane in your golden years, but a stick can be improvised from a very wide variety of objects that can be found almost anywhere.
A light fast rattan cane is a wicked defense tool when used right. The high velocity it strikes with lays open flesh like a knife. It will break the bones in the back of a hand, or fingers, making that hand non functional. And a cane will go right through security at both airports and courthouses.
Stick's are great to have with you.
A light fast rattan cane is a wicked defense tool when used right. The high velocity it strikes with lays open flesh like a knife. It will break the bones in the back of a hand, or fingers, making that hand non functional. And a cane will go right through security at both airports and courthouses.
Stick's are great to have with you.
I wouldn't "hope" those skills transfer some day, but practice with the cane now as well to ensure the skills from FMA work with the cane (most do, others require modification, and some don't due to the greater length).
Carl Levitian
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"I have a rattan cane and can attest to its speed. I see it more for pokes or for two-hand thrusts capable of tranferring much of my body weight into an area an inch in diameter. Ouch. It's also good for hooking and rips/throws.
Dirty Bob"
And there is the point that so many folks fail to see, to use a bad pun. The cane is not for use as a club, but is a very very effective short two handed spear. The old kendo rule is 'thrust to the soft and cut to the hard', and using the small end of the cane to thrust like a spear into the throat, stomach, and groin area is super effective for inflicting deep truma. The ends of a cane/walking stick are more useful than the shaft in-between, and such practice lets the stick be used in tight spaces like hallways or, God forbid, a plane isle.
Dirty Bob"
And there is the point that so many folks fail to see, to use a bad pun. The cane is not for use as a club, but is a very very effective short two handed spear. The old kendo rule is 'thrust to the soft and cut to the hard', and using the small end of the cane to thrust like a spear into the throat, stomach, and groin area is super effective for inflicting deep truma. The ends of a cane/walking stick are more useful than the shaft in-between, and such practice lets the stick be used in tight spaces like hallways or, God forbid, a plane isle.
krupparms
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I learned about sticks when I was a boy. After I became a S.P.in the USAF we were give riot batons & taught to use them! After I got out of the A.F. I went to work for a company that needed security & someone to teach some of their people about security. Most of them could not carry anything other than a pocketknife & a walking stick or cane. None of the personal got injured even though there were confrotations . The sticks worked fine! One guy had to improvise one evening & used the magazine he was reading! He rolled it up & used it to good effect by jabbing the bad guy in the face & SP! He went down & the security guy secured him! The bad guy had a knife he never got the chance to use! Use your imagination! Almost any object can be used as long as you know how to use it! And fight like your life depends on it! IT WILL!
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Geezerwhacki, the Old Fart's fighting art.... The ferrule of a cane used against the other guy's instep doesn't usually take your full weight before he decides to back off....
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There's also the ancient stick fighting art of Iscrima. It's similar to Escrima, but you throw your stick at the assailant, scream, and run (or hobble briskly) away.
harmie
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harmie
I LOVE your story. You should be a writer-and probably are. But the story carries me far away to my youth. My Dad was born (I was looking at his Birth Certificate) in 1901. He always had moonshine. He said that they made it to sell or trade for the things they couldn't grow when he was growing up. He used to have gallon jugs-Milk came in them, and they had long necks and with a finger hole built in. He tried to keep about 12-15 gallons at all times!
We lived in South West Virginia in the Appalachian Mountains and were very poor but I didn't know it! I was well into school before I realized we were poor!
Dad gave me a pocket knife when I was a child. I carried it to school and every where else and I do until this day! The thing I do without thought is feel for my knife to be sure it's there! He taught us safety with knifes and guns as small children. No one around could out shoot him. Every one brought a newly acquired used gun for Dad to shoot. They went by how his grouping came out as to keep it or trade it!
Every Sunday was trade day at our house. People would come from all over and it was like a gun show, swapping, trading, selling, buying guns and knifes were the most common items, but nothing was ruled out.
Just walk softly and carry a big STICK!
I LOVE your story. You should be a writer-and probably are. But the story carries me far away to my youth. My Dad was born (I was looking at his Birth Certificate) in 1901. He always had moonshine. He said that they made it to sell or trade for the things they couldn't grow when he was growing up. He used to have gallon jugs-Milk came in them, and they had long necks and with a finger hole built in. He tried to keep about 12-15 gallons at all times!
We lived in South West Virginia in the Appalachian Mountains and were very poor but I didn't know it! I was well into school before I realized we were poor!
Dad gave me a pocket knife when I was a child. I carried it to school and every where else and I do until this day! The thing I do without thought is feel for my knife to be sure it's there! He taught us safety with knifes and guns as small children. No one around could out shoot him. Every one brought a newly acquired used gun for Dad to shoot. They went by how his grouping came out as to keep it or trade it!
Every Sunday was trade day at our house. People would come from all over and it was like a gun show, swapping, trading, selling, buying guns and knifes were the most common items, but nothing was ruled out.
Just walk softly and carry a big STICK!
Deltaboy1984
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Carl's stories warm.my heart.
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