The OTHER Newsweek Article - "Story of a Gun"

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Fair and objective reporting? Not even close. Check out the last couple of paragraphs especially.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18246417/site/newsweek/

The Weapon: A Day in the Life of a 9mm
It's sleek, light and frighteningly lethal. How the 9mm became the weapon of choice for cops and criminals, civilians and soldiers—and a sick young man in Virginia.
By Jerry Adler
Newsweek
April 30, 2007 issue - The three students from Wilberforce University, near Xenia, Ohio, had a tremendous fondness for 9-millimeter pistols. They bought them as many as 25 at a time from the accommodating owner of the Hole in the Wall Gun Shop, James Dillard. As required by Ohio law, the buyers duly attested that the guns were for their personal use, which was good enough for Dillard. In fact, according to federal prosecutors, the pistols were passed to a gunrunner who resold them to street gangs. Seventy-six 9mm semiautomatics were sold to just one gang, the Double II Bloods of East Orange, N.J. Jamel Coward, who already had a .45, bought a Leinad 9mm and went out with a friend to try it out. On people. They drove down a street in what they believed to be the territory of the rival Crips, and Coward commenced firing. He wounded three bystanders before a bullet struck 19-year-old Erron Lewin in the neck. Lewin, who belonged to no gang, died on the spot.

When Cho Seung-Hui armed himself with a 9mm Glock for his rampage (he also carried a .22-caliber Walther) he was standing in a tradition of bloodshed stretching back more than a century, adding to a toll that almost certainly dwarfs that of the legendary Colt six-shooters. German officers in World War I shot deserters with their Lugers, the original 9mm semiautomatic. When four New York City cops mistakenly unleashed a fusillade of 41 shots on the unarmed Amadou Diallo in 1999, they were firing 9s. It's an icon of rap culture: "Cock my nine, and separate yo' head from yo' spine," Ice Cube memorably muttered in homage to the murdered Notorious B.I.G. Of the 188 shots fired in the Columbine High School massacre, which until Virginia Tech set the standard for depraved mass schoolroom slaughter, 55 came from Dylan Klebold's Tec-9.

It's a lethal gun, but then all guns are. A 9mm round—romantically called a "parabellum," from the Latin slogan ("If you seek peace, prepare for war") of its original German manufacturer—weighs a little more than a quarter of an ounce, with a diameter of about three eighths of an inch. Exiting the barrel at about 1,100 feet per second, almost the speed of sound, it can kill at ranges in excess of 100 yards. But essentially, it's a weapon for short-range self-defense—a "very up-close and personal kind of weapon," says Dan Shideler, editor of the Standard Catalog of Firearms. In the hands of a novice shooter, as NEWSWEEK's Raina Kelley discovered at a Connecticut gun range last week, it delivers a fearsome kick, which leads to anticipatory flinching, causing the barrel to drop and the shot to miss low. A few experts maintain that lower-caliber rounds, such as .22s (about a fifth of an inch in diameter) can be equally deadly. They make a smaller hole, but a .22 "tends to bounce around in the body," whereas a 9mm round often passes right through, says Fred Starkey, a veteran LAPD officer. But the ones who should know best—the militaries of at least 70 countries, including, since 1985, the United States—have come down in favor of the 9mm sidearm.

And increasingly so do American police forces. About 60 percent of the firearms in use by police are 9mms, many of them Glocks, whose relatively lightweight part-plastic bodies make them a good choice for someone who has to carry one around all day. The changeover began after a notorious 1986 shoot-out in Miami between three carloads of FBI agents and two heavily armed robbery suspects. Two agents (as well as the suspects) were killed, leading to a demand for more firepower for officers, who still typically carried the venerable .38-caliber Police Special. Those hold six bullets in a rotating cylinder that when empty has to be reloaded manually, one round at a time. A 9mm holds 10, 15 or even more bullets in a magazine that can be swapped out in two quick motions, although it takes considerable practice to do it smoothly. Naturally, society wants the best protection for its officers. But there are trade-offs. Before 1993, when the NYPD phased out revolvers in favor of Glocks, the officers who shot Diallo could have gotten off a maximum of 24 shots altogether before stopping to reload—and, perhaps, to rethink.


Criminals, who tend not to worry about the lives of bystanders, took to the 9mm enthusiastically. The 1980s represented "the perfect storm for the 9-millimeter," says Jorja Leap, a UCLA anthropologist and expert on gang culture—turf wars were erupting over crack at the same time that the U.S. military was adopting the 9mm, which meant a huge market in inexpensive surplus ammunition. It had glamour; cinematographers fell in love with the automatic's sleek, sinister profile, in contrast to the almost feminine bulge of the revolver. The 9mm was a major visual trope in such powerful films of the early 1990s as "Boyz n the Hood" and "New Jack City." Today it's the gun of choice for the everyday criminal and cop alike, accounting for 263,000 of the roughly 815,000 handguns manufactured in the United States in 2005, according to government figures. The U.S. International Trade Commission tracks imports of handguns, which totaled 878,000 in 2005, but those aren't broken out by type, and so not even the government knows how many 9mm guns are actually sold in this country. But it's ubiquitous on the street, from gang-ridden South L.A.—where in one area, patrolled by the LAPD's Southeast Division, it figured in 23 of 58 gun homicides last year—to the ghettos of Philadelphia, where homicide detective John Ramsey estimates that "about 60 percent of the homicides I work on involve a 9-millimeter." They have one advantage, from the cops' point of view: they eject telltale shell casings at the scene, to the benefit of investigators. That's why some criminals still prefer revolvers.

Law enforcement scored a minor victory in the firepower contest with the 1994 law restricting assault weapons. Among other provisions, it prohibited the sale to civilians of newly manufactured high-capacity magazine clips, those holding more than 10 rounds. (It didn't actually ban using them, just buying new ones.) This was meant to give police officers, who were not covered by the ban, "a tactical edge over potential assailants," according to John Shanks, a former cop now with the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. But Congress evened things up by allowing the law to expire in 2004. Cho reportedly purchased several 15-round clips for his Glock.

Many ordinary citizens now have 9-millimeters for protection as well, which means, inevitably, that they get used to settle arguments between spouses or friends. Last month, according to police in Ft. Smith, Ark., a feud between next-door neighbors led to a confrontation that ended in gunfire—a bullet from a 9mm Ruger in the head. (Police believe the gun was legally owned.) Or they get picked up by children, who find the trigger much easier to pull than the one on a revolver. To the lives ruined by this weapon, you can add one more name, that of Jamel Coward, who, five years after he took target practice on a 19-year-old walking down a New Jersey street, faces a sentence of 25 to life after pleading guilty to murder.


With Raina Kelley, Sarah Childress, Sarina Rosenberg and Matthew Philips in New York, Jennifer Ordoñez and Andrew Murr in Los Angeles and Hilary Shenfeld in Chicago

URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18246417/site/newsweek/
 
The three students from Wilberforce University, near Xenia, Ohio, had a tremendous fondness for 9-millimeter pistols. They bought them as many as 25 at a time from the accommodating owner of the Hole in the Wall Gun Shop, James Dillard. As required by Ohio law, the buyers duly attested that the guns were for their personal use, which was good enough for Dillard. In fact, according to federal prosecutors, the pistols were passed to a gunrunner who resold them to street gangs. Seventy-six 9mm semiautomatics were sold to just one gang, the

I have never heard of this incident. Is it true? You would think a gun shop owner would be a bit suspicious. 25 at a time? Has anyone here ever bought 25 pistols in the same purchase? Oh, and these are the intellectual pride of our nation, the college kids. Yet more evidence that college can't fix stupidity. That's all assuming this is true, of course.

To the lives ruined by this weapon, you can add one more name, that of Jamel Coward, who, five years after he took target practice on a 19-year-old walking down a New Jersey street, faces a sentence of 25 to life after pleading guilty to murder
Um...he's a gang member!!!! If he hadn't "bought" it he would have stolen it. That's what gangs do, Commit crimes!!!
 
Many ordinary citizens now have 9-millimeters for protection as well, which means, inevitably, that they get used to settle arguments between spouses or friends.

My first thought was: what about all the times that a 9mm is used by a CCW holder to successfully deter a criminal act?

Guess that wasn't worth mentioning. :confused:
 
So....

My 9 made me do it.:scrutiny:

There are so many inaccuracies in that article it’s making my head hurt.

9mm… “delivers a fearsome kick”… ***? Are we still talking about the 9mm Luger?

The Miami Dade shoot out was what started cops looking at other rounds beside the 9mm. If I remember correctly, one officer scored a head shot with his 9mm that failed to stop the criminal.

So many more… Head… hurting….
 
9mm… “delivers a fearsome kick”… ***? Are we still talking about the 9mm Luger?

Must be talking about the 9x54 Nitro Super DoubleMagnum UltraZor Express, or something.

You know, this reminds me of the book Lethal Passage, by...Eric something. It was recommended to my wife by a friend who was arguing for more gun control. The book is presented as the tale of a maleficent Mac-10 (well, the civilian Cobray model, whatever that's called) and how it devilishly and deviously found its way into the hands of a 16-year-old who then used it for a school shooting.

The author presents a litany of gun control suggestions: raising the FFL fee to $3,000/year, exhaustive proficiency tests, full-on licensing and registration, etc.

Of course, when you read the book, you see that there are something like 9 crimes committed in order to get the gun. The dealer who sold it was of course blamed for not detecting a straw purchase (and perhaps, just perhaps, he should have been leery), but in the end, the gun's travels are the result of criminal acts rather than some sort of shadowy gun-culture conspiracy to sponsor school shootings.

Dress it up with hyperbolic language and make everything seem foreboding and frightening, and you've got an instant epidemic.
 
I was just reading this story, and it was the reason for me coming here right now.

Newsweek:
Many ordinary citizens now have 9-millimeters for protection as well, which means, inevitably, that they get used to settle arguments between spouses and friends.

When I read this, it came off as if they were trying to say that everyone who has a 9mm will use it for "settling arguments" sooner or later.

Newsweek:
This [AWB 94] was meant to give police officers, who were not covererd by the ban, "a tactical edge over potential assailants," according to John Shanks , a former cop now with the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. But Congress evened things up by allowing the law to expire in 2004. Cho reportedly bought several 15-round clips for his Glock.

Because him having to reload after 15 rounds instead of 1/5/10 rounds is the reason why he was able to kill 30+ people after the cops arrived on the scene. Right.

Newsweek:
Those [the under powered .38 revolvers previously used by LEO] hold six bullets in a rotating cylinder that when empty has to be reloaded manually, one round at a time.

You revolver guys better hope the anti's never find out about speed loaders, or we will be hearing about how you can "spray 6 rounds a second, and reload in less then three seconds, giving every child who comes across one the capability of killing 90 babies a minute." :scrutiny:


The only article in the whole damn Newsweek worth reading is the info on the victims. I refuse to read about the killer. That son-of-a-bitch ain't going to get what he wanted from me [he wanted to be someone, when he was a loser, and by knowing about him at all, he wins].
 
Scutis 34471 wrote:

Those 9s sound really dangerous. Good thing I carry a .40.

I can just hear the hip hop artists making that change:


I'm gonna take my .40, separate the (N-word) from his "shorty".
 
To the lives ruined by this weapon, you can add one more name, that of Jamel Coward, who, five years after he took target practice on a 19-year-old walking down a New Jersey street, faces a sentence of 25 to life after pleading guilty to murder.
Ahem.
Seems to me ole Jamel ruined two lives. Shame he won't be strapped to a gurney.

But don't blame the punk gang-banger. It's the nine's fault... evil piece of metal and plastic with a life of its own.

Personally I have to cover my G19 with my 1911 so it doesn't run out and shoot someone. Evil Gaston...:fire:
 
To the lives ruined by this weapon, you can add one more name, that of Jamel Coward, who, five years after he took target practice on a 19-year-old walking down a New Jersey street, faces a sentence of 25 to life after pleading guilty to murder.

You crazy gun nuts! If it weren't for your hobby, which mostly involves shooting peaceably on a range with family and friends, poor gang member Jamel Coward would have never had his life ruined by being seduced by a 9mm and led to kill an innocent bystander! :barf:
 
LOL! One of my anti friends IM'd me a link to that same article not 1 hour ago!

My response was: "Damn, those 9's really are scary aren't they? Good thing I'm looking for a 10."

:D :D :D
 
This makes the 9mm sound like some kind of super-weapon. From what I've heard, it's considered the bare minimum for personal defense. "Fearsome kick?" Give me a break.
 
It's blatantly biased "reporting" like that that costs the media their credibility. If that wasn't already in the editorial section it should have been. Speaks volumes about the quality of editors and journalists in our newsrooms, doesn't it? :barf:
 
Bah! 9mm is for good people. It is the larger rounds like the infernal .45 ACP that makes ordinary people want to kill babies when the first round is chambered, isnt it? Anyway, thats what I was told when I first joined my gun club, and asked why they didnt have any 1911s for rent.

I think that this article really shows how the overly emotional and ignorant some of the anti-gun people are.. if they dont like living amongst people who can arm themselves for their own protection, ask them to move to europe. Hell, I´ll be moe than happy to swap homeland with one of them.

One thing that struck me as funny:

A few experts maintain that lower-caliber rounds, such as .22s (about a fifth of an inch in diameter) can be equally deadly. They make a smaller hole, but a .22 "tends to bounce around in the body," whereas a 9mm round often passes right through, says Fred Starkey, a veteran LAPD officer. But the ones who should know best—the militaries of at least 70 countries, including, since 1985, the United States—have come down in favor of the 9mm sidearm.

(emphasis mine)

So, a few 'experts' claim that .22 bullets are as deadly as 9mm bullets, but the police and the military, who should know better, disagree? Oh the fools! Everyone knows that the words of 'a few experts' is always true.

The author of this article would do the human gene pool a favor by jumping of a tall building instead of reproducing.. maybe he can actually be persuaded to do it if I find 'a few experts' to back up my opinion?
 
So I guess the "9" is obviously the deadliest, most dangerous, lethal, (enter scary adjective here) of all handgun rounds. So the .45 tickles when shot with it? Guess I'll toss out my 1911 and invest in something that fires this wonder caliber.

In all seriousnous that article sucked. Don't even get me started on the article written by Bloomberg that they published this week as well.
 
Too bad they didnt include a day in the life of a THR member's 9mm:
0900: Sitting in the safe
1130: Still in the safe
1345: Yeap, still in the safe
1700: Hey, the door's open! Yippie, a trip to the gun range!
1845: Bath-time
1900: Damn, back in the safe.
2200: Still in the safe

Kharn
 
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