The Panic may be over but gun sales aren't

[X-Rap]

I think anyone who speaks with their neighbors, customers, family members and reads/watches the news, and understands the condition of the country and world in general also knows all is not well and we are under a full assault from those who would have us believe the "Emperors New Clothes" are beautiful better than any before.
Continuing to speak in fables, I believe many of us are following the story line in the Ant and the Grasshopper and setting things aside for what may be a long winter.

 

[BSA1]

Arizona Mike,

I do not claim credit for the term "Banic." I read or heard it said somewhere and I think it perfectly describes the recent gun and ammo buying spree.

Obama is a flat out liar. He proved that when he said you can keep your Doctor with Obamacare.

V.P. Biden stated what guns Obama and his supporters would allow when he told the story about telling his wife all she needed for self defense was a double barrel shotgun and just go outside and fire two warning shots in the air.

Now after all of Obama's speeches for more gun control last week he said "Nobody wants to take your guns away." I guess someone forgot to tell Hillary.

The point of my post and the two articles I linked is gun sales remain very strong.

 

[benEzra]

People are expecting another panic next year. They are buying guns now, partly speculating that prices will rise and they can sell at a profit. This is not irrational.

I'd suggest that even more are buying guns they want to own someday or hand down to their children when they are of age, and are concerned that new ban proposals or executive actions could reduce availability or greatly increase prices.

I personally have always wanted a Steyr AUG, so if I had the disposable income at the moment, I'd certainly be putting an AUG A3 on layaway at my LGS, for exactly that reason.

 

[ColoradoShooter77]

Personally, I'm gearing up with a couple years worth of powder, primers and projectiles, pistol and rifle.

I'll be ready for the next Billary panic buying spree.

I've got the guns I want at this point.

 

[MagnunJoe]

Hillary will top Obummer as the best gun salesperson ever... U watch... Nobody has put more guns out on the streets than these 2 clowns who ironically want to gun control us.

 

[MagnunJoe]

I predict that Black Friday 2016 will be the busiest day in the entire history of gun sales in the USA. That's only 3 weeks after Hillary gets to the WH. By her coronation, January 20th 2017, there will be nothing let on the shelves.

 

[CoalTrain49]

That's only 3 weeks after Hillary gets to the WH.

She doesn't officially get in there until Jan. if she does, so you may have another month or so to take care of business.

 

[ColoradoShooter77]

Everything will be gone 2 month's before the election, when the public comes to realize that the GOP candidate, whoever it is, will get his ass kicked.

 

[onelastshot]

There's been talk in antigun circles of allowing -- as a concession to the 2nd Amendment as interpreted by the Supreme Court in the Heller case -- one revolver per household. No semiautomatic pistols, and nothing other than bolt-action rifles and break-open shotguns for hunting. Some of these people think that even that is too generous.

The notion of removing tens of millions of semi-automatic pistols and rifles from the American public is wishful at best for these progressive fools. If one percent of firearms owners decide to stand their ground and fight as opposed to quietly surrendering their arms, this nation would be faced with another civil war. I'm sixty and too old to compromise my rights for those who think the constitution can be "interpreted" to be read to satisfy the extreme left.

In short, if they want my semi-automatic firearms they aren't going to be quietly surrendered.

 

[MagnumDweeb]

The only way we'll see a drop in gun sales is if the Dems are defeated in 2016. Dems are raging to destroy America one way or another. Republicans will at least mean some sense of stability when it comes to guns.

If you value your gun rights (at least), you can't vote Dem, they are out to destroy America's rights.

I'm more focused on the ability to make guns and ammo than buy them. I own over thirty guns I don't get to shoot as I'm stashing ammo every chance I get (just ordered another thousand rounds of .45 ACP). My cap and ball revolvers have been getting a lot of time at the range besides my three CCW and one HD only gun.

 

[X-Rap]

The next election is important but there are things much bigger than that to be dealt with before the US and the world can even begin to rest easy.
It starts with the presidency but the GOP has controlled congress for years and with their leadership they've had their arses handed to them since BHO took office.

 

[Theohazard]

Sales tax and dealer transfer fees may also play a part of it. If you get a UBC like we did here in WA it means 9% sales tax is paid even on a used gun. Typical sales tax and transfer fee would add $70 to the price of a $500 gun and $115 for a $1000 gun.

Tax is NOT collected on private face-to-face transfers. Since the passing and implimentation of I-594 at the end of last year, the ONLY time that a dealer is supposed to collect tax on gun transfers is when the gun is transferred to them from another dealer. The WA State Department of Licensing has been very clear on this.

They're taxing transfers between private individuals???

No, luckily they're not; not unless the gun is shipped to a dealer from another FFL.

Ive known a few dealers in Washington who got nailed for not charging the sales tax on transfers and who lost their businesses over it.

Those must have been regarding traditional transfers and not the new face-to-face I-594 personal transfers, because the dealer's isn't supposed to collect tax when conducting face-to-face I-594 transfers.

And there's one good thing about the new I-594 law; previously dealers were supposed to charge tax on any gun shipped through their store (unless there was proof that enough tax was already paid on that gun). But now there's no tax collected on any gun that's transferred from an individual, whether in a face-to-face transfer or shipped from an individual. The only time a deal collects tax on a transfer is when someone ships a gun to them from an FFL.

 

[Slamfire]

Wait till Hillary gets elected, gun, ammunition sales, will spike just before the inauguration.

 

[GEM]

Went to a gunshow today. Loads of everything and business was slow according to the vendors.

Didn't see much interesting stuff. There were a slew of tan Glocks (baby poop color) and raspberry Ruger little semis.

Standard ARs abound.

Hillary is backing down on her let's do an Australian mandatory buy back confiscation - now she's back to UBC. However, one would be a fool to forget what she said.

 

[JTHunter]

ColoradoShooter77 said:

Personally, I'm gearing up with a couple years worth of powder, primers and projectiles, pistol and rifle.

Ditto!
In order to save costs, the guns I have "share" ammo. I have 2 rifles and one handgun for .22 LR, ine rifle and 2 handguns that use .22 Magnum, and a rifle and handgun that use either .38 Special OR .357 Magnum.
I also have 2 other rifles and one handgun that are "onlies" (nothing else in those calibers).
I reload for one of those "onlies" rifles and that pistol, and I'm just getting started reloading the .38/.357 ammo (when I can find brass!).

 

[Ignition Override]

How about people who already have the guns they want... are they focusing now mostly on storing more long-term ammo, whether retail or reloaded?

For those in the majority of states which allow traditional personal gun deals, do these deals now have more appeal than in the past?
Or do most people prefer that the US or a state govt. could have easy access to the records in case of eventual registration?

With the right common sense and situational evaluation, six out of six handgun/rifle deals have been safe. For the novice, a meeting in the county Sherriff's parking lot can also work.

My focus is only on buying more retail ammo, possibly a little more powder if avail in the 8 lbs. bottle. The vast majority is for retirement, which easily covers the next Unanticipated panic (tragic Non-election event).

 

[Purple Bikerr]

"How about people who already have the guns they want... are they focusing now mostly on storing more long term ammo, whether retail or reloaded?

Yes, and have been for 6 mos. or so. $60 a week goes into my ammo/reloading fund (used to be a gun fund) and when I have enough cash,buy buy buy. Bullets , powder, primers, .22 LR. I have enough guns. Though I don't have an AR. Hmmm..... I have enough components (and .22's) to last 10 yrs. And I am still buying. I will NOT get caught shorthanded again.

 

[ColoradoShooter77]

The UPS man will be showing up tomorrow with 8 lbs of CFE pistol and 3 lbs of AA-2460. If I load 147 grain bullets with 4 grains of CFE, that's 17,000 rounds worth of powder....hehee!