The Real Abercrombie & Fitch. Anybody Else Here Remember Them?

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A thread here had me recalling the famous sporting goods firm of Abercrombie & Fitch. The current clothing company just trades on their name.

They were a very high end sporting goods department store on Madison Ave. in Manhattan, 8 full floors, catering to hunters, gun enthusiasts, anglers, sailors, etc.

The 8th floor, all of it, housed their guns, high end to be sure. Griffin & Howe, the custom gunmakers, were located there. From trap shooting to safais, they could fill any shooting need.

As a poor 14-15 year old who very obviously looked like he was not in their target market, I was still treated respectfully by all their staff, including those in the gunroom. I was allowed to pick up and handle the racked, and extremely expensive, rifles and shotguns.

They closed before I was old enough to shop there, and I feel like I really missed something. I know of no other place like it.

I believe they also had a branch in South Hampton, NY, and one in Texas.

Anybody else here have any memories of them?
 
Interesting to know, I had no clue. Just read this after reading your post:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abercrombie_&_Fitch

Another Page I found said:
The brand was established in 1892 and became known as a supplier of rugged, outdoor gear. It was acquired by The Limited Inc. in 1988 and in 1992 was repositioned as a more fashion-oriented casual apparel business. An initial public offering was held in 1996, where The Limited retained 84 percent of the company. It became independent in June 1998, when the remainder of the company was spun off to Limited shareholders.

Abercrombie & Fitch is a retailer of casual clothing and accessories for men and women targeting the collegiate demographic. The company operates over 200 stores including 14 "abercrombie" stores for children and teenagers -- and also publishes a quarterly combination magazine/catalog.

In 1892 Abercrombie & Fitch began under the name David T. Abercrombie Co., a small waterfront shop and factory in downtown New York City owned by David Abercrombie.

David Abercrombie, born and raised in Baltimore, Maryland, was a former trapper, prospector, topographer and railroad surveyor. He was also an inventor, an ingenious designer of tents, rucksacks and other camping equipment. It was his love of the great outdoors that inspired him to begin Abercrombie & Co., a shop dedicated to selling only the highest-quality camping, fishing and hunting gear. His clientele consisted mostly of professional hunters, explorers and trappers. And a man named Ezra Fitch.

Ezra Fitch was a successful lawyer in Kingston, New York. Restless and thoroughly bored with his life of law, Fitch spent all of his free time trekking the slopes of the Adirondacks and casting flies into the streams of the Catskill. In his search for exceptional outdoor gear, he had come to rely upon David Abercrombie's shop, becoming one of its most devoted customers.

He was so devoted, in fact, that in 1900 he had convinced David Abercrombie to let him buy into the business and become a partner. By 1904, the shop (which by now had moved to 314 Broadway) was incorporated and the name was officially changed to Abercrombie & Fitch.

Both David Abercrombie and Ezra Fitch were stubborn, hot-tempered men, and they had vastly different views about the future of their business. Abercrombie was more conservative, content to continue the store as it was, selling professional gear to professional outdoorsmen. Fitch, on the other hand, was more of a visionary. He was positive that the future of the business lay in expansion, selling the outdoors and its delights to more of the general public. Long arguments between the two men ensued. Inevitably, the partnership came to an end, and David Abercrombie resigned in 1907.

In the meantime, the store continued to expand. Ezra Fitch was a determined innovator. As a result of his imagination, hard work and sheer force of will, what he created was no ordinary sporting goods shop. Fitch was determined that the store have an outdoor feeling. Stock was not hidden behind glass cabinets. Instead, it was displayed as if in use. He set up a tent and equipped it as if it were out in the middle of the wilds of the Adirondacks. A campfire blazed in one corner, where an experienced guide was always in attendance, imparting valuable information to interested customers.

The clerks hired at A&F were not professional salesmen, but true rugged outdoorsmen. Talking was their pleasure and selling was performed only at the customers' insistence. By 1913, the store moved to a more fashionable and easily accessible midtown address just off Fifth Avenue, expanding its inventory to include sport clothing. A&F became the first store in New York to supply such clothing to women as well as men.

Shortly after Abercrombie's resignation from the company, A&F began publishing a catalog. This impressive book featured 456 pages of outdoor gear and clothing as well as sage camping, hunting and fishing advice to 50,000 prospective customers around the world. Orders soon began to flood in from around the globe, bringing international status to the ever-expanding store.

By 1917, Abercrombie & Fitch moved to Madison Avenue and 45th Street, where it occupied an entire twelve story building. Outside a sign proclaimed "Where the Blazed Trail Crosses the Boulevard." Abercrombie & Fitch had become the largest sporting goods store in the world, as well as the most impressive. A log cabin was built on the roof, which Fitch used as a townhouse. Next to it he had a casting pool installed, where serious fishermen could sample the store's impressive collection of rods and flies. In the basement, an armored rifle range was set up. There was also a golf school, a floor dedicated solely to completely set-up camps, and a dog and cat kennel. In addition to the more standard types of outdoor goods, A&F had a selection of exotic sporting equipment that would make the imagination reel: hot air balloons, yachting pennants, portable trampolines, treadmills for exercising dogs, throwing knives, shirts of chainmail, leopard collars, and everything a person could possibly need for falconry.

Abercrombie & Fitch outfitted many great hunting and exploration expeditions, like Theodore Roosevelt's trips to Africa and the Amazon and Robert Peary's expedition to the North Pole. Ernest Hemingway bought his guns there. Presidents Hoover and Einsenhower relied on A&F for the best fishing equipment. Other famous clients included Amelia Earhart, Presidents Taft, Harding and Kennedy, the Duke of Windsor, Bing Crosby, Howard Hughes, Katharine Hepburn, Greta Garbo and Clark Gable. And there was more: Cole Porter ordered his evening clothes from Abercrombie & Fitch. During Prohibition, A&F was the place to buy hip flasks.

By 1928, Ezra Fitch retired from the business to enjoy his remaining few years in the great outdoors that he loved so much.

Abercrombie & Fitch continued to grow, with stores opening up in Chicago and San Francisco. But by the late '60s the store hit upon hard times and went bankrupt in 1977. Oshman's Sporting Goods, based in Houston, Texas, bought the company. Business wasn't good. The Limited Inc. bought Abercrombie & Fitch in 1988.

And today, Abercrombie & Fitch thrives as a publicly held company. A powerful lifestyle brand, business is thriving at Abercrombie & Fitch with hundreds of stores.
 
I believe that Teddy Roosevelt outfitted himself from head to toe at A&F as well as purchasing all his gear. He also commissioned a fair amount of gear for the Rough Riders from them as well, paying for it with his own money and with gov't money. Not the groovy teen clothes place it is today.

My father remembered it as the acme of sporting goods. Their gun room was the inspiration for Cabelas and others as a showcase of fine firearms for the safari as well as everyday guns for the American hunter.
 
Time was Abercrombie and Fitch was one of the main importers of Lugers in the U.S.
Funny you should mention that. When I was a kid in the '70s, I remember seeing a 1900 American Eagle at their downtown Chicago store. I've wanted one ever since. I was also impressed by the Mauser 66 switch-barrel rifle they had.

Now you can't buy ANY gun in Chicago.
 
My friends and I used to go to the Manhattan store in the early '60. The gun room was terrific.

I need a time maching and a wheelbarrow full of money.
 
I remember the Abercromby and Fitch in San Francisco. Fly fishing was a big part but they had two gunsmiths and a bunch of guns to look at. Eddie Bauer used to sell guns too. Now, both are clothing lines with nothing of interest.
 
Too young to have seen it, but I wish I had. Sounds like the kind of place you could spend a day or two in.
 
Yep, used to be one in Houston. They were selling high end outdoors stuff - actually had fly fishing stuff when the only folks who fly fished in Houston were those who vacationed in Colorado, etc., while Academy was just a one-shop military surplus store with stupid commercials on the UHF stations. I think it rather indisputable that if transformation is a must, Academy's has been much better.
 
Still have their gentleman's soap dish and shaving mug. Hah!! the good old times when you took your pottery soap dish and shaving mug on safari. Must not let down the side in front of the natives.
 
That description reminds me in a small way of the old Gart Brothers in Denver --"The Sports Castle." Eight floors, I think, but don't remember. I always ran out of money by the third floor.

It, too, morphed into a yuppie soccer sales place. Maybe even polo equipment, who knows. I think it's called Sports Authority now.

I haven't stepped into a Sports Authority since they quit selling guns, and I kind of speed up when I drive by their one on McCaslin Boulevard here in Colorado. :barf:

I hope they do well selling tennis balls.

Terry, 230RN
 
I was never able to see one in person, but the reputation and press proved it was "the" place to outfit for a safari.

I also remember walking into the current version and walking back out in disgust...
 
Although I didn't live too far from them growing up, I don't recall ever going to the stores. Seems like I remember their print ads. I became a fishing guide for a while when I was younger and I can recall a Maine Guide making reference to one of his sports looking like he just stepped from the pages of Abercrombie & Fitch.:)

Seems like Orvis has taken their place to some degree.


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Eddie Bauer is a small chain of "sports" clothing shops with a few flashlights and a compass or two, up here. They did sell firearms at one time though. They were out of the firearms business long before out idiots in Ottawa decided to oppress shooters.
 
Back in the mid 70's my Dad took me to the NY A&F to buy a rifle - he did not hunt and knew of A&F by reputation - I was given the royal treatment at age 16 or so - they asked me what I would hunt and where and what I had in mind. I mentioned that one of the best hunters I knew had a Mannlicher Schoenauer and wondered if they were available, they did not care for the guns that were in production then but wondered if I would like to see a used model model from 1969 in perfect condition. I was able to get a 30-06 and have their gunmaker Griffen and Howe install their side mount scope. It has been may favorite rifle for all these years and I remember my salesman's name Joe Marchica (sp?). It was a great experience.

I was in SFO a year later and went to A&F there - not quite as grand as NYC but got a nice Over and Under shotgun there. Those were the days and I treasure the memories.

I have those two guns still and would not sell them.

A&F sold shortly after that to a cheap sporting goods chain and then later only the brand existed and became a clothing line for people that I would not care to meet.
 
I missed out on ever visiting any of their Stores when they were still worth visiting.

But, everything of theirs I've seen from times passed, was always first rate design and quality.

Many World War One Officers or more well to do Soldiers, did private purchase of various items, and one sees a fair amount of A & F among these.


The Air Corps particularly, Flying Helmets/Hats, Coats, Gloves, Breeches, Boots, Goggles, Holsters, Shirts, and so on, were often A & F, Sears and Roebuck, Montgomery Ward, or other quality retailers of the day...


Really nice things...


I've heard-said, that in World War One, Towns who'd supplied Soldiers where most or all were in the same group or unit, the Town would chip in, and order a bunch of .35 Remington Autoloading Rifles, even a B.A.R. sometimes, and tens of thousands of rounds of Cased Ammo, Socks, Scarves, Gloves, Long Underwear, and whatever else, from A & F, or other outfitters, and have the stuff shipped to their Boys on their own dime...



Eeeeeeeeeesh...things have sure changed...
 
At least there is Cabelas. Not quite the level as the stores that have passed into retail history.
I am too young to have known the stores mentioned when they still had their souls, but they do sound like very fine establishments as described.
Sounds like it use to be about quality merchandise, quality service, and quality customer relations. You have to really look and listen to word of mouth to find that these days.
I LOVE gun rooms like the one Cabelas has for their high-end rifles and shotguns. Every time I walk into one a throng of feelings wells up in me I can not describe.
 
"I believe they also had a branch in South Hampton, NY, and one in Texas."

They also had a branch in Los Angeles, on upper Wilshire Blvd., in Beverly Hills, although it is long, long gone. I visited it a number of times when I lived there.

When I was 17, I visited the A&F in New York, also, and was never once condecended to by the salesman. They treated me as if I were outfitting to go to Africa or Alaska. Fat chance! :)

Times long ago. They shall not return, more's the pity.

L.W.
 
One more thing that I remember about the NY store they had mounted game trophies all over the store and a huge Bison head (Buffalo) over the front door - it was magnificent. I bet stores could not have that sort of thing today or there would be protesters outside.
 
I have on of their labeled rifle scopes. It's got a broken reticule and could not find anyone to fix it.

But yes I remember them, they used to have some great stuff.
 
I remember the San Francisco store and still have an A&F leather shotgun shell case I inherited from my father-in-law. First quality all around.

The current incarnation shares only the name and is a GAP wannabe, only with even less taste.
 
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