Gun libraries chasing the high end of the market

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I never knew these existed. Has anyone here visited a gun library..if so fill us in.


Libraries get loud as gun stores crop up in retail outlets

By Joseph T. Hallinan
Wall Street Journal
Posted on Tue, Nov. 15, 2005

When Junius Morgan, a great-great-grandson of J.P. Morgan, wanted to sell a pair
of custom-made shotguns that had been in his family for generations, he turned a
couple of months ago to an increasingly popular venue: the gun library.

Gun libraries are high-end gun stores, often with leather chairs, dark wood and
Old World art. Some of the guns are new, and some, like Morgan's, are
"previously owned," traded in or sold by other owners. But all have a certain
cachet to go along with price tags that can hit six figures.

Like many retailers in the world of hunting, gun sellers are increasingly
chasing the high end of the market, where the pace of sales and the fatness of
profit margins are largely immune to economic downturns.

Gun libraries are popping up in mainstream retailers like Bass Pro Shops, which
started opening them two years ago and now has them in four of its 26 U.S.
retail outlets, and Cabela's, which has installed libraries in 11 of its 14
stores nationwide since the 1990s.

These retailers have found that even average Joes are willing to cough up big
bucks - from $500 to $175,000 or more - for guns dear to their heart.

The libraries are also appearing under the banner of elite gun makers opening
U.S. outposts. The British firm Holland & Holland, with a store in Midtown
Manhattan since 1996, moved it to a new location last year, and Italy's Beretta
has its own "galleries" in New York and Dallas.

Beretta says strong demand, especially for double-barreled shotguns, has led it
to expand the floor space of both stores.

Morgan sold his guns at Griffin & Howe, which years ago acquired the venerable
firearms business of Abercrombie & Fitch (no, it wasn't always a teen retailer).

Stored at Griffin & Howe's Bernardsville, N.J., headquarters store are ledgers
going back decades, noting such transactions as A&F's sale of a .505-caliber
rifle to one "E. Hemingway."

Morgan, 58, who recalls playing games at A&F as a child in the 1950s, was
selling a pair of 12-gauge shotguns made in England and bearing the famous
initials JPM. The price tag: $36,500 for the set.

While gun libraries are increasing in popularity, the vast majority of the $1.4
billion in annual U.S. gun sales continue to be made at sporting-goods stores
and mass-market retailers like Wal-Mart.

But big chains like Cabela's are devoting more and more space to libraries
designed to be cozy, inviting - and lucrative.

One of Cabela's newest libraries opened last year in Hamburg, Pa. On a recent
Saturday afternoon, library manager Andy Riedlinger saw dozens of customers come
through, among them John Schoennagel. "I come in here just to admire them," says
the 76-year-old retired meat cutter from West Lawn, Pa.

Schoennagel had come to Cabela's to look for clothes, not guns. But as he
wandered through the gun room, a rifle caught his eye: a .22-caliber bolt-action
Winchester Model 52, offered for $700. "They don't make 'em any more," he says.

So Schoennagel drove home, grabbed a favorite Remington rifle and brought it in
to trade.

After a little haggling with Riedlinger, the deal was closed.


http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/fortwayne/living/13171215.htm
 
When Junius Morgan, a great-great-grandson of J.P. Morgan, wanted to sell a pair
of custom-made shotguns that had been in his family for generations,

If that doesn't cause you to lose faith in humanity..... I guess its far better than him turing them in to the next local 'gun buyback.'
 
That got me too.

I can't imagine anyone in that family needing money.

Maybe he's just not a gun guy :(
 
model 52 sporters can indeed go for far more than that. model 52 target rifles, usually model B's can go for less, sometimes in the low 300's depending on condition.

When I was kid, the day after thanksgiving we would get on the train and ride down to penn station and then to A&F with my Grandfather and he would buy his Christmas present from his wife...and then let her take it home and wrap it. Usually it was some form of Penn international reel or a new set of boat shoes etc. but i was able to always go to the floor that had all the hunting stuff in it and was always just blown away by the stuff they had. I was maybe 10 years old or so when I was looking at a rifle on the wall, I think it was model 92 trapper, and my granfather told the guy behind the counter he thought i was old enough to have a look. I was in my glory as I held that "cowboy" gun. That christmas I got a Ithaca single shot .22 rifle that looked just like that 92 even if it was martini action and 22 bearcat in a cowboy holster. My mother was mortified, I was delighted.
still have them both.

In dallas on business a few years ago, I went to the Beretta showroom and another place nearby, both had big money guns and attitude to match.
 
That christmas I got a Ithaca single shot .22 rifle that looked just like that 92 even if it was martini action

I used to have one of those guns, Ithaca model 49 I think, except mine was missing the false magazine tube, it was my first .22.:)
 
I bought my Smith M58 .41 Magnum at the Gun Library at the Cabela's in Dundee, MI.
It was one of the cheaper guns in the room.

I had to wait around while a guy finalized a deal on a rifle. The big, leather armchairs in the library were very comfortable and a nice touch. Good lighting for looking at guns was nice too.

They had some very neat shotguns that were about $6,500 out of my price range, some Winchester Model 12s that were closer, and a nice, stock Krag rifle. I might have bought the Krag if I wasn't in a .41 Magnum phase.

I haven't been back yet, but the place is on my list for my next trip downstate.
 
Why are there leather chairs?

Are there cigars, brandy or books to read?

Or is it just a place to wait for slow sales people?
 
So... Who else here has walked into an A&F store by mistake, looked around, asked where the stuff went to, and walked out?

I did, once. I guess all of the old school outfitters are going by the wayside. Just look at what's happening with Filson. :(
 
Are there cigars, brandy or books to read? Or is it just a place to wait for slow sales people?

Shoot me a PM if you're going to be in the DFW area. The area's lousy with 'em: Cabela's Library, Bass Pro Fine Gun Room and Beretta Gallery all represented.

Not to mention Ray's and McClelland's.

Nasty area to be in if one is on a budget.
;)

Oh, and I've found the staff to be quite attentive without being pushy.
 
I went to the gun library at Cabela's in Ft. Worth. It was a really neat experience.

They had everything from Lugers, to new production custom 1911s, to high end "tactical" rifles, to $60,000 double guns.
 
"Who else here has walked into an A&F store by mistake, looked around, asked where the stuff went to, and walked out?"

Me, the one in the mall on the river in downtown New Orleans. I don't know how long it took to sink in, but I was standing there blinking like I'd stumbled into an episode of the Twilight Zone.

John
 
Now ambercrombie and fitch are peddlers of pornography aimed at teens.

From the "conservative" haberdasher who promoted "binge drinking" last summer, they've added Strip Yahtzee, Dirty Scrabble and Naked Twister to their holiday catalogue directed to the pre-teen and teen market. Can you say "Abercrombie & Fitch". That's right. And, to top that off, they have been running a series of magazine ads directed to the teen market featuring nude young men and women. Menstuff joined the Dads & Daughter's campaign with others to stop the sexualization of young people in advertising. Well, something worked because changes are being made.





Caution link below shows an Ambercrombie and fitch advert

http://www.menstuff.org/archives/a&f.html
 
"I did, once. I guess all of the old school outfitters are going by the wayside. Just look at what's happening with Filson. "

My book is still out on Filson, they are expanding their product line since the guy from Polo took over but we shall see about quality.

I remember taking advantage of the demise of Eddie Bauer's outfitter section.
 
"I never knew these existed. Has anyone here visited a gun library..if so fill us in."

I walked into the "Gun Library" at Cabelas. It brought to mind what the great explorers/safari/hunt clubs must have been like. Dark rich wood. Overstuffed leather chairs. Exceptional guns in lighted display cases. Knowledgable friendly gun enthusiasts for "currators" (read as salesmen) that never gave a hint of pressure. Heck, I could easily see spending a pleasant afternoon with cigars and single malt talking about the firearms in the cases and looking at each in it's turn.

If you've never been you can't imagine what a great treat it is.
 
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