The snubbie revolver, by Ed Lovette

[conw]

Here's one I ran 4 years ago:

First run of the day was with the S&W 442 using Federal 158 grain LSWCHP+P. Target was a sheet of copy paper at 5 yds. At signal, I thrust towards the target and fired 5 shots. They were:

.67
.28
.25
.25
.24
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1.69 total time.

Group size was 3 3/8th's", with the best 3 right at one inch.

Comment: I thought this was a pretty good cold run with a gun I've not shot for a couple years. I also felt like I went slow, to ensure good hits.

I can't get the picture to display, sorry. If anyone cares, the thread was called "Range trip with SD drill results" in the "General Handguns" area.

So you shot that from a high compressed ready?

Just wondering.

Sounds very similar to Claude's 5^5 drill.

Cold: 5 shots at 5 yards into a 5 inch circle in 5 seconds or less. Repeat 5 times as a basic standard for CCW proficiency.

I ran it over Christmas with my 38 special lcr and scored 24/25. No misses but one shot was over par.

In my defense I ran it wearing a brand new winter jacket from a belly band, and I was sick... Yeah I know, excuses . I also didn't live fire for at least 2 months previously. I'd always like to be better (and have definitely turned in way better performances in ideal conditions) but all things considered these were imperfect but typical conditions, and I wasn't terribly displeased - if that's the worst it gets it can only get better under better conditions.

Most of my draw times were 2 seconds or a bit over. Splits were mostly just under 0.5 (strings totaled mostly just under 4.5 except the one over par due to a slowwwww 2.5 sec draw).

Not to put words in his mouth but Claude has hinted that this would be a good litmus test for basic ccw proficiency. I felt bad for not getting a perfect score but then I remembered the basic standard was from low ready or high compressed ready and felt a bit better!

 

[David E]

My run was from High Ready. I was testing various guns that day and wanted it to focus on the gun speed/accuracy as opposed to testing my draw with the various platforms.

While I might agree the 5-5-5-5-5 drill is a BASIC standard, I don't exactly know what it's a standard for. General purpose skill minimum with a given gun/cartridge, maybe, but it's not a very good standard for a defensive skill threshold. But trying to define one is more difficult than one might think.
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[earlthegoat2]

Yeah its alright.

See sig.

 

[torqem]

5 seconds?

wow, man. It takes 1.5 seconds to charge 5 yds and inflict a lethal wound on you with a knife. If he DIVES at you, you can be embroiled in a Zimmerman wrassling match for your own gun. I suggest that you'd better be much, much faster than 1 hit per second. Especially with something as feeble as a 2" .38 with non-plus p ammo.

Many young men can charge 40 yds in 5 seconds, guys. Better get the reaction time, ccw draw and 5 hits in under 2 seconds.